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Posted over 12 years ago

Flipping Houses IS NOT Real Estate Investing

Flipping houses IS NOT investing in Real Estate! When you buy something in the hopes of selling it for a higher price in the future (buy low, sell high) that is SPECULATION.

You are speculating on two things:

1. You are purchasing the item at below market price
2. You will be able to sell that item at or above market in the future

When you flip houses, you are hoping for a big pay day. You plan to capture the equity that you have created through rehabbing. The trouble with this strategy is that you’re counting on equity, which is a perceived value. You cannot be absolute certain that equity will be there when you plan on selling. There are WAY too many unknowns when you invest for equity, some of which include:

Market conditions: You may be well aware of your current market, but no one can see the future.

Time and budget: The rehab process can bring about a whole slew of unknowns. Surprise repairs can cause planned budgets to be surpassed and unexpected delays can deplete your margins.

Carrying costs: Another factor that is hard to pin down is the cost of holding the property. Taxes and utilities are a real nuisance to your margins.

Selling: Once your project is complete, you need to sell it in a timely manner and at the price you are expecting. Factors controlling the market may have changed from when you first purchased the property. This could have a negative or a positive effect on your asking price.

Buyer issues: Even if you have your side of the transaction figured out, the buyer side is completely out of your control. Financing can be very hard to come by. And if you do find a qualified buyer, you’re still on the hook for the appraisal! Appraisals can be the make or break point of your project. Trust me, you may think your property is worth the price, but the bank probably does not.

Flipping houses is a great way to build a business if you have the resources and capacity to do so. You must be able to work on volume and build a business if flipping houses can be considered a successful long term strategy. The ultimate goal when investing your money is to generate passive income. In other words, you want your money working for you. Unless you build a Rehab Business, then you will not be able to collect passive income, thus you will not be investing your money properly. Flipping a house here and there isn’t going to cut it.

When you invest money, you need to know and control everything. You need to be certain of your returns, and you need to be able to hedge against the unexpected. The best way to do this with Real Estate is by creating a long term, buy and hold strategy. Some of the key benefits that a long term buy and hold strategy will give you that short term flipping will not:

Cash Flow: Cash flow is the passive income that is critical to any type of investment. It is your guaranteed check in the mail. It provides you a basis to hedge against the unexpected since it gives you liquid cash on hand, and it enables you to plan and measure results of your investment more precisely.

Favorable taxes: Taxes are always more favorable for long term investments. You can actually increase your ROI through tax deductions that are not available for flips.

Raise funds: You can use your rental properties as collateral to raise funds for future projects.

Growth during economic downturns: People always need a place to live. When foreclosures are high, and financing tough to get, there is always a large increase in rental demand. This will cause rents to increase, which will ultimately increase your cash flow. Your investments actually grow while everything else is falling apart!

Equity on the back end: Equity is the bonus benefit. Not only will you be able to collect cash flow with your rentals, but you also have a chance to collect any equity that has built up during your time of ownership, which substantially increases your ROI.

Bottom line, unless your investment is providing you with passive income, then you don’t have your money properly invested. Owning rental properties is the best way to generate passive income and take advantage of all the benefits that come along with them. Flipping houses may sound great and an easy way to make a big pay day, but unless you build a business rehabbing houses, then you cannot collect a passive income. You are strictly gambling with your money in the hopes of it paying off. That is not investing.



Comments (17)

  1. New construction can be considered speculation than as well. With your logic it would be unwise for companies to build new homes as they take land and turn it into homes only to sell them quickly. There are short term investments and long term investments and the idea is to continue doing that over your lifetime. Each one have their own benefits and each one has there downfalls it just depends on your goals.


  2. Anything you do in life is speculation, it's that simple. If you want to break it down into categories that's fine but for every argument you make against flipping being classified as investing there is a similar argument along the same line in what you do classify as investing. Tell me one investment category that is not speculation, the stock market, no. Lending money, no. owning the twin towers, no, etc, no. Every single thing is speculation and all that can usually be done by an investor is the reduction of risk. And being too careful can cost you a fortune over your lifetime.


  3. Brandon, it seems to me you are just creating your own limited definition of "investment." As others have mentioned, I do rehabs in addition to buy/hold and the one supports the other. You also seem to suggest that issues of sale price, holding costs, rehab costs, etc. are an area of great uncertainty. A smart rehabber can and should have a very good handle on what these amounts will be and will make their purchase offer accordingly. Yes, it takes quite a bit of knowledge but that's also part of any investing method. I agree that the ultimate goal is passive income, allowing you to step away and not have a "job." But using shorter term strategies to help reach that point doesn't negate their validity as investments. When you use the term "investment", it seems to me you are only talking about passive investment. Actively investing for "quick cash" is still investing.


  4. If I'm not mistaken....your "Estimate Repair Costs..." blog from a few days ago refers to "Rehab & Flip" as an investment strategy. You are sounding like a Politician!


  5. As a few have pointed out in the comments here, fixing and flipping IS a form of real estate investing. Brandon, it may not be your preferred exit strategy but by definition it is a form of investing. And done correctly it can build massive wealth. I know several investors that used a buy and hold only approach and lost everything when the market crashed because values dropped in Phoenix by more than 50%. On the other hand, a few guys I know that were flipping through this time period did very well because they got in and out of deals quickly.


  6. If you're under the assumption that you can flip a property and call it an investment then you are wrong. When you are buying real estate just to flip it for a quick profit, all your doing is trying to make a quick profit. If done correctly, flipping houses can be a very good cash building strategy, but you're not investing your money. Investing is about one thing: Building Wealth. Wealth creates income, and hedges against troubled times. Buying and holding properties for the long term is a prime example of this. It is a source of passive income, you can use it as leverage, it appreciates over time, and it protects you during hard times. Flipping houses only does one thing, gives you quick cash. The only way I can consider flipping houses as an investing strategy is if you were to build a business doing it. That means that your company is purchasing multiple properties, rehabbing them, and selling them on a consisitent basis. By having multiple properties in your pipeline, you can take a loss on a property, but still be protected because you have other properties that can cover that loss. Once you're at the point where your company is operating efficiently enough so that you can essentially step away from the day-to-day operations and still collect income, then you have a legitimate investment. Your company has become a source of passive income, you can use it as leverage, it appreciates as it grows, and protects you during hard times. That is investing!


  7. Great discussion, guys!


  8. No reason the two approaches can't exist side by side. I like rental property and the passive income, but a few flips can generate the cash needed to buy a rental property, finance the rehab on a new rental, or pay down the balance on a mortgage. I think that if you are smart you are using both, and flips are a big part of a strategy to OWN your rentals outright.


  9. I'm glad to see that you have it figured out Brandon. The way I see it....if I put my money into it, I'm investing. Short term, long term...buy & hold real estate, flipping, rentals, stocks, gold. It makes no difference. People invest in education, businesses, relationships, etc. What you are looking for is a return. It just sounds like you think that your method of real estate investing is more worthy of the investing namesake.


  10. Good article, but your argument is flawed. "When you invest money, you need to know and control everything." You can never know or control everything. A very successful local investor told me, over a 1 year period, he lost money on a free & clear house. He had a tenant in there who stopped paying. He filed eviction. The tenant fought it vigorously. By the time he finally got the tenant out, it was November. Any seasoned landlord knows this is a tougher time to find a tenant. He was not able to re-rent the property until early the next year. He had taxes, insurance, and legal fees, but no rent for the entire year. "It is your guaranteed check in the mail." Only if you are renting to Section 8 tenants are you even close to getting a guaranteed check in the mail. However, that still doesn't mean your tenant will pay their portion. "When foreclosures are high, and financing tough to get, there is always a large increase in rental demand. This will cause rents to increase, which will ultimately increase your cash flow." While logic would have you believe this to be true, every landlord I know in Southern California will disagree. When the market fell apart and many people were going through foreclosure, they were not looking for a home to rent. They were shacking up with friends and family. Rents went down considerably here. Even my best rentals dropped from $100-$250 a month. My rents are still not back to 2009 levels. I was getting $1,550 for one of my houses, that I recently re-rented for $1,350. "You are strictly gambling with your money in the hopes of it paying off." You make it sound much riskier than it is. A seasoned investor (or flipper if you prefer) takes calculated risks. There are just as many risks associated with owning rentals. Have you ever seen a once beautiful building, now boarded up, located in the 'bad part' of town? At some point in the past, someone built that property because the location was good, it made sense and it probably made money. Unfortunately, good areas go bad. Would you want to own a bunch of rentals in Detroit that you bought 10-15 years ago? Luckily, bad areas also turn good! Just because your rental produces income today, doesn't mean that check will be there next month on the 1st. One major capital expenditure can wipe out a year or more worth of cash flow. I have a rental which the septic system failed on. The city said I had to connect to the sewer lines they put in the street. I was $5,500 light by the time I left city hall and that was just paying for the permits and fees! It doesn't always makes sense to keep property long term. I don't care if you buy to flip today, or buy and hold. In the long run, we are all property flippers because the only guarantee in this business is that eventually, the title will change hands.


  11. Definition of invest: to put (money) to use, by purchase or expenditure, in something offering potential profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value. By definition appears to be investing. I certainly agree that rehabs and buy-and-hold are entirely different beasts and require different processes and tactics. However, to say one is investing and the other is not is a bit short sighted. Personally, I pursue both approaches and have found success in both, in fact they can feed off of one another.


  12. Not sure that I agree with Brandon that flipping is a bad thing. But I do agree with him that most people do not know the difference between flipping (speculation) and buy-and-hold (investing) - and the lack of knowledge IS a bad thing. One other thing that could be added to the article is that if you are a flipper, you are taxed totally differently on your gain. If you flip, that is short-term income and you're taxed as if it's earnings. An investor who sells only after holding the property for 12 months, will be taxed as an investor (and perhaps not at all, if the money is rolled into a 1031 exchange for another property). Two different worlds, that's for sure. And though flipping makes for more interesting TV, for me buy-and-hold is the real strategy to build the lifestyle I want someday.


  13. Is day trading stocks not "investing in the market" or investing in stocks"? - Of course it is! It is just one way of many to invest. Flipping or rehab&resell is just one strategy of many. If you are just doing rehab&resell your real estate portfolio is not diversified enough and most likely will not always workout in the long run. It is a good idea to have multiple pillars in your Parthenon. Smart investors are doing wholesale deals, rehab&resell deals, and buy&hold deals


  14. Yes I am. Too much risk involved with speculation. Investing is about minimizing risk. What do you think Mike?


  15. Brandon,are you saying that speculation is a bad thing?


  16. Great article Brandon. I completely agree - and Kevin has an excellent point as well.


  17. most important of all, it is a job