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Forums » Short Sales » Does a charge off create a lien release?

Does a charge off create a lien release?

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Real Estate Consultant · Florida


Quick question:

Doing a short sale:

A 2nd lender has charged off the mortgage on a subordinate lien position. Does that release the lien?

Thanks



Real Estate Consultant


Define "charged off". That is a term that means different things to different people.

The real answer lies in a short sale approval letter from the lender. The letter will normally specifically state the method and matter of resolution by the lender.



Real Estate Consultant · Florida


david - thanks - I understand your answer - its just that we found out about the charge off when we started to negotiate with the second.



Rehabber · Tucson, Arizona


Originally posted by Mike Luzzo:
Quick question:

Doing a short sale:

A 2nd lender has charged off the mortgage on a subordinate lien position. Does that release the lien?

Thanks


I worked for a lender and when a charge-off was made, it left several options for our bank. After the loan has aged ( gone unpaid) to a predetermined point, lenders policy is to write-off the receivable and recategorize it into bad debt and expense it as a loss. From here, they have several options:

1) Collect the debt or settle for an amount less than what is owed. Generally, this option is used prior to the charge-off.

2) Sell the bad debt to a recovery service (collections company) for pennies on the dollar. This is the most likely scenario. Any negotiations will be handled through the new debt holder.

3) File civil action. If they like their chances they may choose to file a civil suit to pursue a judgement against you. This is usually unlikely since they chose not to pursue foreclosure.

4) Not pursue anything. Unlikely as some schmuck will likely pay something for the bad debt.


As for the lien release, technically speaking, you need them to release the lien in writing. A Charge-off does not qualify as a release.

In my opinion, the 2nd option is most likely. I would call your lender to see if there is anyone in their collections department who can give you some insight. If they have not already sold it, you might get them to settle for a lien release. Plus, by negotiating with the lender directly, you'll avoid a harrassing call from Guido the Killer Pimp!

Good luck!



Real Estate Consultant · Florida


Scott, Thank you for your reply.

Mike Luzzo



Real Estate Investor · San Antonio, Texas


deficiency judgment?

1099-C?

Who can tell me about these?

:cap:





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