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Bienes Raices

· Orlando, Florida


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 01:46 AM

I viewed it the other day with my realtor. It's already approved at 58K, but I really wouldn't want to pay more than 50-51K for it. My realtor called the listing agent to ask about it, but lister didn't get back to her. Is there any point in offering, say 48K, and see if they'll negotiate up to 50K? Once it's an approved SS, does that mean they won't negotiate further?

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:35AM


James Harkness

Real Estate Lender · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 02:07 AM

It can't hurt to try. If you arent willing to pay more than 51k for it, then it isn't a deal to you at 58k, so you might as well make a lower offer.

From the bank's perspective, it really depends on the disposition value of the property. If the 58k value is closer to market value, they may consider a lower number. However, if the approval is priced at disposition value, it is unlikely that they will accept much less, as they think they will be able to make more profits in marketing it as an REO.

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:35AM


Bienes Raices

· Orlando, Florida


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 02:13 AM

Thanks James.

I tried getting a market valuation for this house from several online tools (one of which I pay for) and the results were all over the place. Usually they are pretty close together, but not this time.

What is disposition?

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:35AM


James Harkness

Real Estate Lender · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 02:19 AM

Disposition value is the value that the bank thinks that they can definitely sell it at given the amount of time that their business model allows for an REO to remain on the books or on the market.

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:35AM


Bienes Raices

· Orlando, Florida


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 02:24 AM

Thanks again. So if the disposition is 58K, does that mean they'll actually list it a lot higher than 58K if it becomes bank owned?

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:35AM


James Harkness

Real Estate Lender · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


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Icon_minipost Nov 20 '09, 02:36 AM

As an asset manager, when a property in my queue is foreclosed upon, it is removed from my queue and goes to the REO department. I unfortunately cannot shed any light on how they go about listing the properties because I have no experience with it. Sorry I could not be of more help.

Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:36AM


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