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Real Estate Investor · Tampa, FL


Hello forum,

I'm new to the real estate business and i'm just starting to get my feet wet but i need to know if i'm going in the right direction because i have no mentor or teacher to really guide me. Let me start off first and give you a little background info about me. I'm 21yrs old currently in the Air Force stationed in Tampa fl at this time. I've been in for 3yrs and i'm getting out Jan 2009. I've always wanted to get into real estate but up until a month ago is when i really started acting on my desire to get into REI. I'm out of the military in a couple months and i don't want to work for anyone (only if i absolutely have to), I want to work for myself full time in REI. I'm young and i definitely want to retire early. With that being said these are the things i have been doing for a month.

I've join a website called The Real Estate Arena to get a start and it has kinda helped me out.

Since i'm new i decided to become a property locator first, then move up to wholesaling once i learn the biz a little more, then to buying properties and either holding or flipping them.

I called every " I buy houses" ads or signs that i saw to build up a buyers list. I called them to see what they are looking for and tried to find those types of homes on my own. Most of the people i contacted were helpful, some i guess didn't have the patience for a newbie.

I put out craig'slist ads looking for investors to bird dog for.

I drive my neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods for all the FSBO signs. I need to also call on the for rent signs too. But i haven't found a deal yet. I've been told i might talk to 100 people before i get one good lead (not even a deal).

I got some responses from my ads from mortgage brokers and investors to add to my list.

I got a response from one of my ads and now i'm affiliated with an actual company that buys and wholesales properties. The person who responded to my ad is very helpful. He gave me a list of properties that the company owns and what i could to do is find buyers for their properties first, put their house under contract, wholesale it to my buyer with my fee attached. BUT everything is done through them with their properties meaning financing, title company, even the whole rehab process if the buyer wanted to. So i have to actually find buyers with a good enough credit score to purchase their homes. (let me tell you its kinda hard to try to pitch properties to these guys with telling them " Oh you have to submit a credit app first per the company before we can do anything to see if you are approved by our lender" ). I've had no luck with this.

I got another response from a group of investors that is hard to find properties for because they have specific guidelines that i have to follow. The properties have to allow cash back at closing (which i heard was illegal and don;t really know what it is or how it's illegal), they have to use their own title company, etc. All the sellers i talked to said no mostly because most of them were bank owned which brings another point. Some of the people i talked to including these folks frowned apon me finding deals on the MLS just because everyone else can see it too! But maybe i'm wrong, but a deal is a deal no matter where it comes from right?

Even though i have a full time job, i'm on the computer looking at realtor dot com, FSBO dot com, and a variety of different websites looking for deals. I find alot of good deals but they are bank owned an nobody seem to want them or they are under contract with another wholesaler and it seems the people i talk still don't want them. I read different REI forums faithfully everyday.

I've gon down to the court house and got the pre-forclosure list looking for deals but i've been told that area is over worked.

I've gone to only 1 REI meeting so far due to child care issues but i'm gonna find a way to get to them every week beacuse i know networking is essential in this biz and it's all about relationships.

I've gone to an open house with one of the nice helpful people i called.

I've met with a guy from home vestors to ask questions.

I've tried to find a mentor for free(money is tight) to kinda guide me me on one like once a week, but no luck there either.

Now i know that i need to get business cards made up, have signs around town, and attend the REI meetings, but it seems like i'm kinda going in circles and i'm trying not to become discouraged. I'm definitely, ABSOLUTELY not going to give up because i'm too determined to succeed in this and i don't want to work for anyone. I definitely WILL NOT stop at this but i don't want to try to reinvent the wheel either. I haven't found any properties that's not already listed yet so my qusetions are:

Back to the original question, Am I going in the right direction?

Do anyone have a better system or process that i should be doing?

Is it unrealistic to try to learn about REI up until the point when i get out the Air Force and try to go into business from myself when i get out? ( I know that no one can learn everything in a couple of months. People that have been doing this for years still learn new things everyday, but can i learn enough to not have to work for someone).

What should i really be doing to get some deals going?

The market is good here in Tampa to buy and hold because people are selling for pennies. When i get out i want to relocate in either Atlanta GA or Charlotte NC. I hear it's hot in those areas and they are growing fast. If you know anyone in those areas or have any info about those areas please let me know. I'm going to buy my first property when i get out of the military with the VA loan ( i have some advantages in being in the military) so i've been looking for properties in both areas.

If you know someone in the Tampa Bay area that would ne interested in mentoring me pleae let me know. I'm hungry to learn this biz. Sorry the post is so long and i appreciate anyone taking the time out ot read this and respond.


Real Estate Coach · Oakton, Virginia


First off, congratulations for knowing that you will never quit and that you are going to survive no matter what. 95% of people quit this business before they ever do their first deal. I wanted to quit dozens of times early on, and never did, that's the key to success.

What you need to do is start out wholesaling. The best ways to market for properties are:
1. bandit signs
2. direct mail
3. door knocking.

Since you said money is tight, I would start off door knocking. Most investors are too afraid to do this, however this is the quickest, easiest and cheapest way to get deals.

Simply pick a neighborhood and knock on every single door.

Good luck and remember this business is a lot of hard work, but certainly worth it.



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Real Estate Investor · Katy, Texas


I think you are doing a good job so far. Don't give up. My advice would be to maybe focus a bit more on one thing.

Building your buyers list is great, make sure you keep up with them.

Another way to possibly find some deals are looking into abandoned homes.

I would answer more but I am really tired, feel free to pm me if you have any specific questions.



BossLady08, your motivation is contagious! It sounds like you may just take over the world. I do have a couple of suggestions that go in a different direction. It sounds like the end result for you is to buy real estate in Georgia or NC when you leave the military, but for now you're in Florida.

In my view, the single most important factor for successful real estate investing is to know your market. Therefore, if I were you, I'd be spending a lot of time on the Internet learning the market where I intend to buy. The sooner you decide where you are going to live, the sooner you can begin doing research in that location. I'd be looking at not only home values, but also rental values, school districts, planned development, population trends and so on.

As for what you can do while you're in Florida, I would continue looking for an experienced real estate investor that you can work with. Learning how to put deals together, how to evaluate properties, financing options, dealing with tenants, marketing a property and so on would be invaluable. Right now, it sounds like you are out on your own spending a lot of time looking at properties, but how much are you actually learning? Since you are willing to hustle, I think you could find a real estate investor willing to trade your labor for his or her knowledge.

I would also consider becoming a real estate agent. The process of studying and taking the exam will be a tremendous learning experience. And if you market and sell your own properties, it will save you a bundle.

Anyway, that's my two cents. Best of luck.


Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


Hey congrats on the motivation. How are you liking MacDill? Are you planning on staying in the Tampa area after your separation from the Air Force?

I agree with a few others, focus is needed. Pick one thing that really excites you, learn everything you can about it and be the GO TO PERSON for it.

I do suggest trying to hit a few more club meetings. But whatever you do, DO NOT LOSE THE PASSION you have now. It might take a while for the first deal to come, but you have to trust me when I say it is like a domino effect after that.


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, FL


Thank you guys for your responses. I'm glad to hear that i'm somewhat on the right track with this. I'll just keep my head and my spirit up and try to find those deals and network, network, network! I'm gonna keep pushing and stay determined, and the success will come to me one day!!!


Real Estate Coach · Jensen Beach, FL


First off..good job for taking action..I'm in Florida on the other coast. My father lives right by Macdill though..:)

Your area is good for wholesale deals. Forget about being a " Bird Dog" ..that's pathetic. You're going to get paid nothing..and as far as those guys that need cash back..forget them..it sounds like they want the best of everything and if you so happen to find it they MIGHT TAKE DOWN THE DEAL...they're not serious.

There's a few things that you can do to grab some deals right away:

1. Knock on owners of foreclosures
2. Put bandit signs everywhere
3. Drive for junk properties in lower end neighborhoods

Quit going all over the place and focus on one or two things. Put a system in place and you will be successful. You have the same energy that I had when I started.

Feel free to ask questions!

Richie




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