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Real Estate Investor · Toronto, Ontario


Not to far from where I live is a house that is abandoned and boarded up. (I live in Canada) I know that I am going to have to find either the owner or contact the bank. I am 22 and a beginner in real estate investing. My plan was to buy, fix and sell, but I was wondering if it were possible to get money at closing to cover the mortage until I can get it sold in the spring of 2009. Can anyone give me more insight on this?



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Real Estate Investor · Amarillo, Texas


Originally posted by Dan O'connor
David,


I suggest that you get the "goods" on the property first before you worry about locating purchase money.


Very True Dan, so many people including myself figured that an abandoned house would be an easy catch. All deals require some sort of nurturing before materializing. Get your numbers THEN find financing, however, it's never a bad idea to find out what type of financing is available.

Real Estate Coach · Oakton, Virginia


David,

I would go inside the house and check it out first...see what you are getting yourself into.....then for financing you will need a hard money lender.


Real Estate Investor · North Carolina


Abandoned and boarded up houses are a real crapshoot. Go inside and inspect. If you don't know construction hire some professionals. You will probably be apalled at the rehab costs.

You will most likely need to pay cash for the house, unless you can work out a deal with the seller. Then, if you're still in love with the house, use your credit card to finance the rehab.


Real Estate Investor · San Diego, California


Hard money lender is the way to go for you. make sure you buy it CHEAP! You need it for probably half what you are already thinking of offering.

Hard Money Lender will lend up to 70% Repaired Value so if you buy it for 40-50% you can use extra funds for the rehab costs.

Check out the abandonded house I bought & rehabbed on my website, it came out killer and netted me a doctors salary!


Real Estate Investor · Toronto, Ontario


There is a great deal of land surrounding the house. Would it be an even better idea if I could get the house really cheap, knock it down and build another larger house in replacement?


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Maybe, but difficult for any of us to answer.

What will it cost to remove the old house? Any hazardous material that will cost extra for disposal and removal? Are they other vacant lots nearby? What would they cost? You would need to buy at a price where your net after demo would be about what you would pay for the land.

What will it cost to build new houses? Is there a market for the house you would build? Can you subdivide the lot and build several houses?

Do you need any change in zoning to build new houses? What will the neighbors think of new construction?

The lending's going to be similar to hard money. Maybe tough to convince a bank to back you the first time, so it might help to have an experienced partner.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Residential Real Estate Broker · Durham, North Carolina


How much is a "great deal" of land? Is it enough to think about knocking down the house and subdividing into building lots for a developer?


Real Estate Investor · San Diego, California


Steves on the right track. Heres the order i would consider: buy it, replat the property into several parcels. rehab the house and sell it, thus establishing a sales comp for the other parcels. Sell the other parcels.

A friend here in San Antonio bought a dated "mansion" last year for 1 mil on 10 acres. He put 250k into it with the rehab. He also replatted the property splitting the 10 acres in half. He ended up selling the house for 1.7 mil, netting him 400k and 5 prime acres free! These deals are out there, I hope it works out for you.

Good Luck!


Real Estate Consultant · St Petersburg, Florida


Yikes! Guys, he is 22 and a new investor!

Wheatie is asking some good questions. How is your real estate market? What is average length of time on market before a property sells? Do you know what the property would sell for fixed up? Do you know how much it would cost to fix up? Do you have the skills to do the rehab or will you have to hire someone? How tight is lending in your area? Do you have a good credit record? Do you have contacts for private lending?

This is probably not the project to begin your career with, tho you may be able to joint venture with someone more experienced. I would definitely get a look inside the place and work through all the numbers. It may still be a good deal and you may move forward with it. But do your homework, get comps for the property.

I am a big fan of buying a property with additional land if I can subdivide the land, sell off the lot(s) and use that money to finance the rehab. You may be able to do that, which would be cool.

Sorry to sound like your mom, but I would hate to see anyone crash and burn on their first project and give up on real estate. This may still be a great deal and you may do it, but you need to get a lot of answers before you put any money down.

Feel free to ask questions along the way. I would love to hear more about the property and how you are doing.

Barbara


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