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This is the situation. My wife and I would like to purchase the house next door to ours--an 1865 brick two family--an exact twin to ours (ours was converted to a large one family years ago).

It was last purchased in 2006 for $272K. Current asking is $270. County prices have dropped 21% in the last year alone. I always thought the guy overpaid due to condition and low rents at the time... a $230K price would have been more realistic in 2006.

Owner is in arrears on mortgage. Property advertised "as-is" and "bank must approve" price (sounds like a pre-forclosure to me). One of the two units is rented at $770 per month, the other empty. The current tenant is unemployed and hasn't paid rent in about a year. The owner's health is failing and has recently re-married and moved out of the house entirely.

I'm 58, my younger wife is the main breadwinner bringing in over $120K typically as a consultant. I've been a work-at-home Dad for my 5-1/2 year old boy since he was born. He's starting full time school next year and I'd like to jump start my career again as well as get some real estate going.

This house would be perfect since it's a physical twin to mine. I know it inside and out--almost as well as my own. None of its problems overwhelm me.

The plan. Buy as a short sell... hopefully for around $200K. See if I can get them to deliver it empty (don't want to hassle with getting rid of a problem tenant right out of the gate... I know too much about him... many personal problems & drinking). One side is freshly painted. Fix up both to maximize potential rents... perhaps $900-1200 per month in this area. Each has a nice yard, country location, storage barn, each side has a basement, seperate furnaces, etc. Each unit has 4 BRs and one has an extra half bath.

Long term... to convert to single family--like mine. A country gem in a great location.

Questions:

I would not like to use our own home's equity or take funds out of IRAs. We don't have enough cash on hand for a 25% down + closing. The home would appraise for between $315-380 currently. Is there a way to finance using the home's After Repair Value or "instant equity" (if I get it as a short sell) to cover all costs (down payment, fees, etc.) Our home (its single family twin with a bit more acreage) is currently valued at $480K.

Also... finance as an individual or create a corp (we have an LLC now but for consulting/creative services). Should we set up a real estate/development corp before we make an offer or can we just make the offer as individuals and then turn it over to a corp to protect our other interests?


Real Estate Investor · Milwaukee, Wisconsin


Why dont you refi your house to get the money? You should have another LLC. You should write the offer as Jerry Finzi or assigns. It should only take you a few minutes to set up an LLC after you have had an inspection. No need to pay for that until you know you are going to close. I do not think this house is going to cash flow for you off the bat. Make sure you have an exit strat set up that you can afford understanding that you might have to feed this property and that your repairs will come out of your pocket. Hope this helps.


Real Estate Investor · Lakeville, Minnesota


Jerry, have you considered using your IRA to purchase? You can self direct your IRA, use it to buy RE tax free deferred. You would make more money on your return by putting it in RE!


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Jerry,

This property may be difficult to cash flow given the numbers you provided.
Also, investing using your IRA (once it is rolled over into a SDI-self directed ira) is an option, but if you do not have enough to pay for it all cash, your only option is a non-recourse loan which would require a minimum of 30% down + closing costs + resereves. Sounds like that is not an option for you on this deal. If the property would have an ARV of over $400k and assumming you put less than $60k into it, and you get it for $200k or less, you would be better served flipping it via buy, rehab and retail it. Convert it to a SFR like yours and you could make a nice profit.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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