We had just been bidding on a REO and we had supposedly come to an agreement. We had signed an original purchase agreement, but the bank hadn't signed off yet. Then we received a 5 page addendum that nullified most of our contingencies. When we refused to sign our realtor told us that the bank's addendum was common and we shouldn't try and buy an REO because the addendum was standard and every bank would insist upon the same addendum. Is this true? Is it standard for a bank to limit your contingencies to where you don't really have enough time to do an inspection and title search. And to insist upon signing away the contingencies after you've come to what you thought was a fair deal?
Yes, every bank will have a lengthy addendum. There's no standard, but they're quite similar. If you don't like the one you've seen then you probably won't like others.
All the ones I've seen give adequate time for imspections and title search. They don't take away inspection or financing contingencies. Good title is part of the deal, so that doesn't need a contingency.
Buying REOs is a slow and frustrating process. Be prepared for slow responses. Be prepared for whatever date you set for closing to get pushed back. It's just part of this game.
Which contingencies in particular did the addenda remove?
As Jon mentioned, the addenda shouldn't impact your due diligence period (though sometimes the bank will refuse to give you one in the original contract), and it certainly won't impact your ability to get clear title.
In fact, most REOs will close through the seller's closing attorney or title company, and in most cases the seller will pay for the title search and title insurance. You shouldn't have to do anything except show up at the closing table with your funds or financing...if the seller can't get clear title, that's their problem, not yours (though the deal might not close in this situation).
Hi what state do u live in? I put in an offer on a REO here in Vegas with Wells Fargo. The property was offered at 69,000 it was a 3bed 2bath townhouse. I put in an offer for 17,000. Contingent on inspection, first off the bank wanted a 1,000.00 deposit since they said that many investors were biding on properties and in the end could not come up with the financing which was ok with me since I intended to purchase. Then they came back with a counter offer which I counter offered and ended up purchasing for 37,000 and assigned it for 12,000 and the deal closed in 2 weeks. The only other thing the bank want was full disclosure statement on what I was doing. They naturally wanted proof of funds for doing the deal
Are you sure? I've done several deals with Wells Fargo, and have never seen a contract that allows assignment. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen *any* REO contract that allows assignment.
Did you offer actually say, "...or assigns"? Or did you somehow not let the bank know you were doing an assignment?
Tough to "assign" with an REO. Must take title, then resell, or double close the transaction (make sure to disclose your intent to your buyer and use the proper documentation)
Edited: 06/26/2010 at 07:18AM
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I bet this is your first REO deal. If so, then I bet your agent did not explain to you what "as-is" means in the REO listing.
REO property is sold "as-is" and "where-is", which means that you are purchasing the property in whatever condition it is in wherever it is located. The lender will not make any repairs and will not give any repair concessions should your inspector find anything needing repair.
Of course the bank will let you do an inspection at your expense, and will let you turn on utilities at your expense if needed to perform the inspection, but no matter what you find, the property is being offered for sale in its present "as-is" condition.
You are expected to take whatever repair is required into account and factor that cost into your offer to purchse.
The bank's addendum has an inspection clause that basically says all this. They won't accept an inspection contingency which gives you an opportunity to either renegotiate the price or walk if you don't like the inspection report.
And yes, the addendum is pretty standard across the industry for REOs. Most of the time, the bank has their own contract form, too, and won't accept any offers that are not on their form or don't include their addenda.