Sorry; I should've put in more detail. Lonnie, is (was? I think he's still around) Scruggs is the guy that " wrote the book" on this. It isn't a new idea though, I put myself through college doing the same thing with used cars, and Julius Caesar probably had a buddy who did it with used chariots, it's called " curbing" when it's cars.
IIRC his book is about $50 but I've seen them on ebay for less than $5. It is a good read and I know a lot of people who've done quite well doing " Deals On Wheels" , or DOW as it's known. You'll likely run into a fair amount of newbies doing it, because they often don't have a lot of money and it's something that can be done with little funds, like birddogging.
Here is an example of a perfect Lonnie Deal!
A guy calls and says he want to sell his house. I ask how much and he says $600 for a 1990 3 br. single wide set up in a park. He has the title but it is in his grandma's name.
I go see the home and offer him $500 minus the taxes and give hime a $50 deposit and place my sign in the window. A few days go by and we have several calls on our sign and set up a showing with all of the potential buyers getting there at the same time. We do the walk through and narrow down the buyers to the ones that have the most cash down and can demonstrate the ability to pay. We sell the home for $7,999 with $1,000 down and payments of $184 pr. month for 48 months.
2 years go by with steady payments and then the buyers decide they need a bigger home.
I tell them I will let them out of the contract if they continue to pay the lot rent while the home is on the market. 1 month goes by and we find another buyer and this time the price is $8,979 and we get $1,500 down and cary back a 60 month note with a 10.99% rate and a monthly payment of $166.33 for 60 months!
This home has been a gift that keps on giving and I have never had a dime of our own money into this deal:)
Basically, it's buying wholesale and selling retail - you are the bank and offer to sell using owner financing. Say you buy a mobile home for 3,000 and sell it for 6,000. Most of these folks don't have the cash to buy these homes outright - it's just like buying a car, most people get financing. The buyers come to you and pay you a down payment (say $500) and you finance the rest ($5500) with interest - they make payments to you.
It's nice because you are the bank - all you do is collect payments. The buyers are homeowners and are responsible for taking care of the mobile home.
I definitely recommend reading Lonnie's book, Deals on Wheels, if you plan on investing in mobile homes.
Yes I make every effort to befriend the park managers that "get it". I don't do any financing in parks where I don't see eye to eye with the manager or park owner.
Yes please elaborate Michael. I am not sure what you are saying when you say, " I wouldn't touch his deals." I seriously doubt you had a bad experience with Lonnie Scruggs. He is a great guy!
I assume you must have had bad luck with a mobile home deal that you put together when you say this. What happened?
Every Lonnie Deal I have bought has been a nightmare.
Most parks in the Houston TX area that allow homes to remain in them that are old and in bad shape are not places that are easy to owner finance in.
They are dumps and attract the lowest form of Trailer Park trash. You will evict them on month 2.
Most of the parks that allow these Handyman Specials have bad reputations and many people simply do not want to live in them
These are however great parks to try and buy..
Also the quality of person that a home that cheap attracts is something else. How many times can I get that wobbley box back? Also there are to many hidden surprises in those homes. You can never get them repaired.
Now Lonnie's main principle of Buy low and owner finance is sound but it is hardly his idea.
I think Lonnie needs to UPDATE his book a little so his prices reflect more of today #'s
I would not buy over 11 years of age, not unless you are buying at 30% max of worth.
And yes Marc you are correct I have never had any issues with Mr Scruggs and I doubt I ever will. :mrgreen:
It all depends on the area and the market. If you're in a "hot" area with a lot of demand for affordable housing, buying older homes can work.
On the other hand, if you're not in a "hot" area you have to be really careful - you need to know the market and know what people are looking for. Most times, you'll encounter 2 types of buyers - those who want everything new and in good condition - these people are more concerned with how the home looks, and those who don't really mind an older home with older carpet, a hole in the wall, etc. The trick is to distinguish between these two buyers and know which homes and which areas they'll be interested in.
All in all, it's the area and the market that will show you the demand and what people are looking for in the area. Hope that helps!
Yea Mike dumpy parks full of crime are no place to do business. Only certain communities are worth doing Lonnie Deals in. Location, location, location...
The home buyer (the folks you sell on contract to) are responsible for not only the lot rent but, the insurance and maintainence as well. YOU are the bank in these deals and all banks do is collect payments, they don't pay lot rents or mow lawns!!!!