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I am looking to buy houses for investment in the us.
What city is the best for buying real estate (houses) and than renting it?
I am looking for:
Good cap rate (more then 10%).
Easy renting (low rental vacancy)
Good potential for prices to raise.
Thanks
chen


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


Here's a link to a prior thread where investors talk about markets they are investing in .....

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/62/topics/37096-where-would-you-move-to-if-you-had-to-start-new-


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


This is a discussion thread, folks. Do not post ads here offering properties. They will be removed.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC



I am in VA so that is all I know. Prince William County is still very low price and on the outskirsts of DC and right now have a very high appreciation rate. There are multiple offers on the homes currently. Also the outlying Richond areas are very good. Richmond's unemployment rate is 3.5%.
Kevin


Real Estate Investor · Salt Lake City, Utah


I have had a ton of success during the past 24 months in Lee County, Florida. At the risk of sounding like a sales pitch, I am going to give you a link to where you can view specific properties that meet your criteria. Normally I make it a point not to blatantly promote our company in a forum like this, but For your specific question, you may really benefit from this. (don't worry, nobody is saying to buy anything) We have an army of people working on acquiring properties that meet very strict criteria. We look specifically for property with capital gain potential in markets that have very high occupancy rates.

Here is the link: http://www.masonhill.com/propertylisting/ (don't worry, no gimmicks here)

Hope that helps you get a handle on what to look for...


Real Estate Investor · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


I believe you can find profitable markets somewhere within most us cities. In my opinion, the best opportunities exist in areas that are run down and have been targeted by the city or state for improvements. In philadelphia these areas are called empowerment zones. Furthermore, if there are new developments already happening or better yet about to happen in or near that area, it gives you good reason to speculate growth there. I invest in philadelphia and believe that philly has some of the best investment opportunities in the country. Gentrification is happening all over the city, and high income home owners are actually buying beautiful rehabed and newly constructed homes in somewhat low income areas. There arent too many places where you have a trend like that! PM me if you ever wanna talk further about investing in philly!! Good luck!


Real Estate Investor · Memphis, Tennessee


Chen,

The market I'm in has been pretty strong for buy-and-hold investors for quite some time. There was an article (on yahoo I think) that came out about a week ago that listed Memphis, TN as the fourth most affordable market in the U.S.

The low price points allow properties in respectable neighborhoods to cashflow after the debt service, taxes, insurance, and management fees are paid out. This was true before the market crash, and even more so now.

Of course, the market here won't appreciate as rapidly as markets like Phoenix, Las Vegas, or San Diego in the rebound to come, but certain parts of town with newer construction and broad appeal should appreciate enough to make any long term investor happy.


· Lafayette, Indiana


From everything that I have seen, many of the homes in the hard hit areas of Michigan, Memphis, TN are great areas to buy right now. There are actually REO companies that are buying up these properties, offering to investors and they include all the management. Hope this helps!

Brad Stoller
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Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Sigh! What part of "Do not post ads here offering properties." is unclear? I've only edited these posts, costing the posters 10 influence points. Any more ads, no matter how they're worded, will be deleted. That's 50 points, capiche?

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Hard Money Lender · Lakewood, Colorado


I have this great property to sell... Only kidding Jon.

I own property in Memphis and they cash flow great. I tried to manage them long distance and that did not work. Many people pay in cash and dont have checking accounts so I would factor in a management company when you are looking at deals.


Real Estate Investor · Memphis, Tennessee


Kevin made a great point. I'm not comfortable investing in the kinds of areas where the typical tenants "pay in cash and don't have checking accounts" either. Personal preference I guess, but what's the point in getting great cash flow up front only to have it offset by higher refurbishing and more frequent vacancy costs? In the end it would seem that a good 'bread and butter' house is the more solid, less worry investment.

Thankfully, as I mentioned in the post above, deals in Memphis can be acquired in good neighborhoods that cash flow adequately even after property management fees. Can anyone list other similar markets that they have experience with? I'm close to a group of investors that might consider doing business in such an area so I have some interest in more answers to the original question of this thread...


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Good rental areas would be in Texas, outside Austin (Round Rock,Pflugerville), San Antonio, and some areas around Dallas and Houston. Texas is one of the most stable economy in the country right now, however, cash flow is questionable (In the best areas you'll barely break even) but it is good long-term investment. If you're looking at good solid cash flow, middle/low to low income is the way to go. I'm doing really well in Birmingham, AL, but there are some other areas that worth exploring.


Real Estate Investor · Memphis, Tennessee


Thanks Eddie!


Foreclosure Specialist · Lafayette, Louisiana


The most important driver in deciding on whether or not to invest in a market is jobs. Plain and simple. If the job forecast is trending up, that market would warrant further investigation.

If the job forecast is trending down (Detroit), I would back off. You see the problem with investing in a market like Detroit is that the decline in the job market may be permanent. Those jobs are not likely to return to previous levels.
When it comes to investing in your next property - go where the jobs are.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Originally posted by Shaun Steckler
The most important driver in deciding on whether or not to invest in a market is jobs. Plain and simple. If the job forecast is trending up, that market would warrant further investigation.

If the job forecast is trending down (Detroit), I would back off. You see the problem with investing in a market like Detroit is that the decline in the job market may be permanent. Those jobs are not likely to return to previous levels.
When it comes to investing in your next property - go where the jobs are.


Although I absolutely agree with the equation of Job=rent=appreciation, it is mostly true for middle and higher middle class neighborhoods. When it comes to lower classes, the driving forces are different. That population completely relies on public assistance. For the most part, that population cannot adjust, or afford moving somewhere else. Those neighborhoods can be gold mines for cash flow although not without risks.


i think New York is the best place to have some property as it's a real investment, though the prices are higher in NY, but you can be sure that they will never get very low.
Besides it's the city with lots of opportunities!
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Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Originally posted by Reena Veena
i think New York is the best place..., though the prices are higher in NY,

... No kidding...


Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


Eddie- my 154 units I bought in Garland couple months ago is down to 2 vacancies. Well over 10% cap and ripe for a 2-4% rent increase. It is possible to get good cash flow with proper investigation, excellent negotiation and capable management,imo. Rich


Residential Real Estate Agent · Oneonta, New York


Upstate NY (Oneonta) has two colleges. The rental income is very good, you will always have students wanting to live off-campus. Then in the summer for 10 weeks, while the students are gone, Cooperstown Dreams Park and Cooperstown All-Star Village host baseball camps. People from all over the country send their children to the baseball camps and then the parents look to rent the homes for Alot of money per week. The houses that are already permitted for these rentals is the best bet.


Real Estate Investor


Rochester,NY was listed as the #1 (of 10) in cash flow property market by NuWire in '08. It really hasn't changed much. We have low property values which allow a greater cash flow opportunity. (we do have high property taxes, though but still ranked #1) We also have a high concentration of colleges here...(RIT, Uof R,MCC,Nazareth,St.John Fisher) I'd post the link to the article but I prefer to keep Jon on my side! :)


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