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Real Estate Investor · Bellevue, Nebraska


Hi BP, I have a seller who is willing to do a lease option. He, through his realtor, actually brought it to me. I'm wondering how this will benefit me and if it's the best thing to do in my situation. It's a 4-plex that is within a few miles of where I live. There are 3 one bedrooms and 1 two bedrooms. The monthly rent rolls total $2100. The owner usually pays all the utilities. The taxes are $2943.90. His selling price is $139,500. I will offer $125,000. He owns is free and clear and wants to get rid of it. It's assessed at $150,000 through the county site, it was $190,000 last year...and I know it's not the best estimate. I would think the $150K is low based off of other properties the same size. Please give me some feedback. I go to meet with the realtors tomorrow and this will be my first investment deal.

I would like to use the potential equity I acquire to make more deals. Before I start that please give me feedback on the numbers, any more insight you have on lease options is also greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kendra


Real Estate Investor · Fort Collins, Colorado


Hi Kendra,

First thing that makes me wonder is why the current owner wants to get rid of the property. If it was a personal cash issue he would not be willing to do a lease option. I would find out the reason for a quick sell.

A lease option is a great way to create equity or money to be placed toward the purchase at the end of the lease. If the current owner was to take a lease option he would most likely make less monthly income from the deal and suggest the property might be distressed.

There is the possibility he's looking to trade up (1031 Exchange) which would be a good thing but DO your research on this property.


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Make sure you have your stories straight, are you doing a lease purchase or a lease option? Lease option means you do not have to exercise the purchase at the end of your term but the owner does have to sell to you if you are ready to purchase either on or before the close date.

How much money down are you prepared to put down if needed? Make sure you get the owner to give you some form of monthly credit towards the pay off. Tell him you want a minimum of about 200+ towards credit and that you will assume all repairs up to a certain dollar amount. Make sure to get the best deal possible. Good luck

p.s. if you really want to learn the lease purchase/option methods you should get Wendy Pattons course, she is the best.

Small_buymemphisnow_stacksCurt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
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Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


First, is this a deal:

Rent: $2100
Expenses: $1050
NOI: $1050
Price $125,000
Down: $25,000
Loan: $100,000
Rate: 6%
Term: 30 years
Payment: $600
Cash flow: $450/month: $5400/year
Cash on cash return: $21.6%

So, OK, its a decent deal.

But, factors two and three are demand and value. Is there strong demand for units like this? Or are there plentiful similar units nearby with "for rent" signs in their empty windows. Are there other similar units nearby for the same price?

Curt makes a good point about lease option vs. lease purchase (do you have an option to buy or are you actually making the purchase). But in neither case do you actually own the property. So "leveraging the equity" is not an option. That's not something that's easy to do anyway, unless you've owned the property (i.e., have a deed) for at least a year. Even then, you're probably looking at a LTV of no more than 70%.

You're going to want your monthly lease payment to the owner on the order of the $600 payment. You will want a significant credit (all of it, if possible.) When you actually buy the place, you're still going to have to come up with a loan. So, be sure you understand how to do that so you don't end up losing the place because you can't complete the deal.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Bellevue, Nebraska


Thanks guys for your insight. He's an elderly gentleman and he's having health complications so he's simplifying his life. I've been researching and will continue to do further research. The demand is high in the area. Thanks for pointing out the difference between lease option and lease purchase. My only thing is I own a home so I don't "need" to lease this place as a place to stay. That would be great...I guess my next question would be is there a way to have the units constantly leased out so that it still works in my favor as well as the sellers.


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


You can certainly lease the place and then rent out all the units. The lease gives you possession, but doesn't mandate you live there. Assuming you avoid any clauses in the lease that would require you to live there. This is called a "master lease option" when referring to multi-families. You have one lease with the owner, then sublease the individual units.

As for your question about having the units constantly leased out, that's up to you. That's really independent of the master lease. Its up to you to keep them filled. You may not have legal ownership of the building, but for all practical purposes you have day-to-day responsibility as if you did.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Bellevue, Nebraska


Thanks Jon I appreciate the help. Let me ask you another question; do you think the $125k is a good price to offer or can I try and go lower?


Real Estate Investor · Chemnitz, Saxonia


Try it Kendra, if he say no you can still offer a higher sum.

I´m also here in Cleveland area searching for a option lease/owner financing and found actually on owner of 5 units. He will do this lease, $1,650 gross today and only $62,000 price one unit vacant (+$300 monthly when rented). I can pay $11,000 down but I dont understand this lease option. When he rent out his house the owner receive $1,650 per month, when I make this lease option he receive only $450 a month and I got all the rents from the other tenants. Thats not a win win for the owner, why he offer this lease option then?

-Uwe



check out utility costs with a fine tooth comb. Those big multi families suck alot of juice and fuel,,not to mention water from multiple faucet drips and hidden stool running thru HUGE amounts quickly. Tenants like to waste your money. Check into getting things separate metered and or high efficiency style upgrades. If wiring is old insist on CFL bulbs to cut down draw and cost. NO sun lamps or space heaters.




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