Often discussed but don't individual markets have a bearing on the Ratio?
What would be the most you would pay for a single family (including rehab and associated costs) for a home that rents for $900/ month? Assuming all cash deal
Often discussed but don't individual markets have a bearing on the Ratio?
What would be the most you would pay for a single family (including rehab and associated costs) for a home that rents for $900/ month? Assuming all cash deal
About $80-90k because in my area a $45k SFR is either a mobile home (minus the land) or in the midst of a drug turf war.
Hmmm, haven't priced them real well but homes under $100k out here are few and far between. I'd say $80 - 100k.
I am in the epicenter of the foreclosure crisis, port st lucie fl and a 3/2 that will fetch 900/month is
going to sell in the 65 to 70k range. The upside is a great rental market ie plenty of folks lost homes and credit need rentals.
My clients like to see 1.15% of purchase price for rents. These are for newer homes in nice areas.
Justin S., Wheelhouse Properties
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The only people buying property at a fixed up cost for $45k that rents for $900 are the actual wholesale investors, this is not a price that an investor could expect to pay from a wholesaler. Our clients on average are paying about $65k-$70k for a $900 a month rental.
Curt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
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Also, throw the 2% rule out the window. It is not a real relevant indicator for every market these days.
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Depends on the neighborhood. If it is a nice area that is going to appreciate in the long run I would say 70k - 80k.
Low income area where you are getting that much rent just because it has a bunch of bedrooms, I wouldn't give more than 40k max.
I have both, guess which one I hear from the tenant once every 6 months and which one I hear from each week.
2 percent rule starts to loose relevancy once you start exceeding gross rents of around 500 to 500 in my area and in many others from what I have gathered on BP.
Is the 2 percent rule more applicable to multiple unit buildings when moving into higher prices?
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There are not many if any places here in Memphis where you can be all in for $40k and have a home that rents for $900 per month. If you can find them bring them to me all day long and I will buy every one!! One of my best personal holdings I am all in for $46k and is rented section 8 for $895.
Curt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
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First of all Sir, I said in the Fourties. For the sake of the impaired thats $40,000 to $49,999. Now, just because your personal and best holdings don't weigh up, does that make my statement untrue Mr. Davis. The question was how much would I pay and I said in the $40,000s. There are places here where you can be all in for $40k and rent for $900. Maybe there is opportunity after all for us to work together now! From time to time just to name a few areas where you can catch a deal like this would be in the Reese point sub, Country side sub, and the Trafalgar sub. 2197 Bobolink just sold in Oct for $34,000. I don't know how much it cost you for renovation, but most of these homes are pure cosmetic rehabs that I can get done for $10k to $15k easy, and that still puts me in the $49k bracket. For more information, feel free to give me a call. Your friend James.
Out of curiosity... if there are markets that can get 2 or 2.7% rents... versus a home market at 1.15%... why wouldn't you go to the more lucrative areas?
I understanding starting locally, paying your land lord dues and making your bones in areas close to home from a logistics point of view... but after you've done a few, is it wise to continue in a less efficient area or expand your horizons to better investment arenas?
I mean, we could all just chug money into our 401k's and let Fidelity or whoever control our retirement... most of us are willing to do the extra work of being a land lord or RE investor to boost our returns... by that same token, why wouldn't we be willing to be a bit more geographically mobile in our investments to further boost those same returns?
I've found most advice on the contradictory Nathan. People say to invest geographically where you'll make more, and then they say stuff like "boots on the ground" and "know your market."
Pick one or the other, because if it's 3 states away, you won't be able to know your market nearly as well, nor have as much time in with boots on the ground.
Some prefer one way, some the other.
@James - correct, it could be $49,900.
@Nathan - putting your money with Fedelity is a gamble and you could loose it like many have. IF you can find places that provide a 2.7% ROI its probably in an area like Detroit. I have found that you can find higher returns but almost always are in rough areas with higher crime, vacancy and maintenance. To me, the lower ROI in a better area will always produce better over time.
Curt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
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Telephone: 901-881-0552
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I agree with Joe that I have found most advice on the contradictory.
Also, I don't think it's always about where you can make the most money, at least not for me. For me, it's also about having peace of mind at the end of the day and knowing that everything is going well with my investments. Another thing you need to factor in the out of state investments is the extra cost of flying down every now and then to check on your properties. Once you start adding in the extra costs and time spent, the higher return doesn't look as good, IMHO.
To answer the OP's question, for a SFH, in my market I can get $900/month with all in cost of around $40k. The ARV of these homes will be around $65-75k.
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I also agree with Curt. Why in the world would a thirty-something year old buy a sfh for $50K cash for $850/month rents? First of all, this individual is using no leverage. He's not building equity with pricipal pay down (yes, I understand the cash flow from said propert could be used to build equity in other ways). Whatever place he purchased is either old as hell, in a very undesirable area, or both. And, most importantly, what the heck does a 30-something year old need with huge amounts of cash flow? He's sacrificing capital growth as a result.
With that same $50K cash, you could use it as a downpayment on a brand new duplex worth $250,000. So, instead of owning a crappy $50K shack, you could own a brand new $250K property in a fantastic area. Your long-term prospects are immesurably better.