Has anyone had success getting good deals at these auctions?
Anyone had the seller not go through with the sale if auction price is too low?
Has anyone had success getting good deals at these auctions?
Anyone had the seller not go through with the sale if auction price is too low?
Hi Tim,
I have never been to an REDC auction but I have attended other auction vendors auctions. My experience has been that you can call them before the auction to find out if there is a reserve price on the auction. Some of the auction companies will mark the property to sell no matter what the price and other sellers will keep their right to reject a winning bid. One of the auction companies refers to the properties that are definitely going as "absolute".
Good luck! I LOVE auctions. They are exciting!
The biggest issue with any auction is the lack of real due diligence available to the buyer.
Most auctions are run As Is, Where Is, and you do not have any recourse if you find issues such as defects, leins, ect later.
So, unless you can do your homework on the auction list in advance, and go with a cherry picked list to bid on based on that homework, then i would suggest skipping the auction route and just work the REOs thru a Realtor that afford a higher level of protection for you.
I have been several times at REDC and they provide low risk...title is free and clear, property is as-is, but it's easy to estimate the damage from bidding chair: if loan is available, that means there aren't any major damages, and if it's not that means it needs some work. If it' seriously distressed, auctioneer mentions the damage right before bidding, but reserve price is the issue: I have won 5 times at REDC, sellers approved 2 of my 5 wins. From those 2, 1 seller wasn't able to close within 3 months due violations. I have sheared my experience, is anybody out there who would like to share details from some other auction company? I am looking for alternative company that also guarantees free and clear title after the auction.
My brother picked up a beautiful home from a REDC auction in Birmingham, AL. He got it for around $235k I believe. It was listed for $400k
I see most of REDC's properties returning to the market and other forums are pretty convinced they use shill bidding. Their sold prices are also higher which supports that theory (combined with the properties returning to the market).
I like hudsonandmarshall and williamsauction better. I've purchased from the latter and it was quick and painless.
Sorin,
I have red terms and conditions of Hudson and Marshall auction and it says winning bidders are responsible for any remaining liens. Did you inherit any liens after you bought? If yes have you gamble or you did title search?
Sorry, I must've been confusing. I purchased from Williams auction.
Ok, Williams, how are they? Do they sell deed to the winning bidder free and clear? What about reserve and sellers approval?
I don't know if REDC uses shill bidding. They might, but their marketing effort is HUGE. Billboard, mailers, signs, etc.
For Southern California, after going to an REDC auction, with enough money to buy 5 houses, we decided we'd want REDC to sell our houses. The prices where inflated in a huge way.
Waste of time for an investor...
I would recommend Williams Auction. I have picked up 5 properties in the last 6mths and Title is Free and Clear. There is no inflation of price it is the highest bidder.
Many bids start at 1K and the nicer homes start at 25K or 50k or 100k. If you are the highest bidder you are contacted. They then take it to the seller if the seller approves it then they close you out. They charge a premium of $1,500 or $2,500 or 5% whichever is higher. But you know that from the start. They also have pictures of the homes interior and exterior.
Don't know what market you are looking in, but I would recommend them over any other website. Very reliable and resourceful.
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I second that, I recommend Williams auction. Out of the 3 mentioned here, I feel one gets the best deals with them, clear title and best chance to get their bid approved. Thumbs up!
To cucaloco: it was many others opinion that REDC employs shill bidding, and the fact that prices are inflated, yet a large percentage of properties return to the market only supports that.
I went to the last REDC auction here in St. Louis. They advertise that some homes start at $500 but all the auctions were started by the auctioneers saying "$500-I've got $5000, do I hear $10000...", so somehow there was an internet bid or they just jump the price to 5k automatically. The only thing that went less than $5k was a junky looking house that is in a warzone, so don't think you'll get a house for $500. I was able to go in and inspect the 4 properties I was interested in before the auction and had an idea of what the rehab costs would be. Got to the auction and my favorite one was pulled from the auction-houses are still on the market up to auction time. Won the first one, $10k bid on a house that's been sitting on the market for over 6 months and is now listed for $25k. Bank rejected that bid. Was high bidder on another one, $11k on a house on the market over 6 months currently listed for $20k. Fannie Mae accepted that bid and I close on the 17th. Decided to pass on the last property as I didn't want to go $20k on a 2 family, going to stick with SFH's for now.
I will definitely at least look at future auctions. I am disappointed and not at the same time I didn't get the one house-it's a house in great condition but the area is shady. Would have made money at $10k but I would have had to stretch my client screening standards to get it rented. What I will share is this:
1. Stay at the auction. I saw at least 20 properties that "sold" at auction that went up for bid again later in the auction as the bidder couldn't 'seal the deal'. These went lower the second time than the first, some by just the last bid, some, quite a bit less. I didn't even stay for the whole auction as I was signing papers and the houses I were prepared for were already done.
2. Be prepared to buy beforehand. The bank had 15 BUSINESS days to accept or reject the offer/bid. You have 30 days to complete the deal. With this auction, they had until April 10 to notify you if there is a deal and then you have to close by April 20. I found out I had an accepted offer on April 9.
The auction was crazy and fun. There were several times I thought the auctioneer made some mistakes and bumped up the bid amount and there were several times where they went back and redid the bidding as bidders had made mistakes. I was looking at low end homes and they seemed to go for about half of what they were currently listed for. One house I was watching, but knew it would be too much $$ for me, went for $80k at the auction and I saw it back on the market listed for $125k a week later so the bank rejected the bid. Another house I was curious about the area went for $70k at auction when it was listed for $85k. So overall, I would say there were no real 'steals' at the auction, although, my lot is worth more than what I paid for it and the house that sits on it.
I hadn't gone to REDC in a year after feeling like it was simply an excercise in futility. But I went this last weekend to the Southern California auction. I previewed and researched 136 properties, and bought 1. The three other guys I know who went didn't get winning bid on anything. So, even though I did get one property, I doubt I will attend again until I hear things are different with them. Honestly, haven't had any better luck with Hudson Marshal or Williams lately.
I think the most important thing is if auction company or government auction provides buyer with title insurance. If yes, all the effort and rejections from sellers might be worth it.