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Rida V.

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Chicago, IL
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With the dollar plummeting to an all time low and predictions that it will continue to drop it seems like a good time for me to buy as I am currently in Europe and converting my Euros to dollars. However the dollar crashing and the surplus of inventory out there is a concern for me. There are obviously people still buying in the States, it’s why we are all signed up on bigger pockets and as always there are advantages and disadvantages. Can we expect the prices to crash in the future as they have stayed a steady rate for the past couple years. This will be a long term investment for me so the immediate outcome is not important but if prices are coming down then maybe waiting for that would leave me in a better negotiating position. I have been outside the US for some time and following from abroad is not the same as things always seem grimmer when on the outside, yet still I cant help but wander is this the right time to by property?

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Daniel L.

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Baltimore, MD
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Who can really predict whether the USA will improve its financial position in the world or not?

My guess is there will be continued inflation. Our nation's economics might change once we get a new president. I would still invest here if I was from Europe, though.

(who wouldn't invest in the U.S.? I never even considered an exception until now)

John C.

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Rida,

You mention that you are outside the US but you list Chicago as you home in your profile.

I am based in London but have lived in the US at different points. I was born there and lived there when I was younger.

Great RE investing is about finding deals that work and work now. Value investing would be the term from the equities market. If you find great deals that provide cash flow or meet some other long term need then keeping the property is not likely to matter too much. You said you are focusing mostly on buy and hold so short term corrections do not matter much. Less so if you buy below market.

You face a couple of other variables. There is the FX angle. If you expect to keep the cash in the US for a long while then it matters less what the short term FX movements are doing.

Then there is the tax situation. Your specific tax status, if your home country wants a piece, etc. A bit too complicated for this thread and maybe too personal for a public BP discussion.

There are great deals in the US and the Euro is strong now. I assume you know the laws when it comes to ownership and dealing with rental properties. If not post some questions or get in touch (PM, email, what ever).

Good luck and good hunting.

Jim D.


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Hi Rida, I feel the next couple years will be a fantastic time to invest in U.S. real estate, however you must carefully choose your investment area. I saw in your profile you wanted to be a long term hold landlord. You must find an area with an abundance of low cost housing that will cashflow using the 2% rule. REO'S are at an all time high and are a good source for this type of property.Also make sure the economy and rental market is stable in the area you choose. The time is now, opportunity is knocking, do your due diligence and jump in with both feet. Good luck!!

Toby M.

Residential Real Estate Broker
Aspen, CO
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Rita,

I used to trade currencies professionally for a few years before moving on to trade commodity derivatives.

From a currency standpoint here my opinion:
1) Nobody will be able to tell you for sure what is going to happen with currency values
2) I think the Euro is going to peak before the election. If the Dems make it we will see a gradual strengthening of the Dollar. If the Reps get in again we will likely see a further deterioration of the Dollar. I could write a few pages why I think that, boring stuff.
3) Euro will peak at 1.5963.... don't hold me to the last digit ;-), who knows how high it will go, just think I know the rough time it will peak (possibly only local peak)

Keep in mind that the exchange rate is only relevant for your down payment and your mortgage payment. If you put 10% down then exchange rates are only of marginal interest.

You did not say where you would invest? There area areas where prices are increasing as we speak (Aspen). Real estate is a very local thing.

John K.


Minneapolis, MN
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Rida - I would say that now is a great time to get your Euros to US dollars and invest in this market. Just be smart where you look, places like NY and San Diego are still pretty high but a lot of other places in the US have good deals and owners who are looking to unload.

Good luck!

Tim W.

Real Estate Investor
Indiana
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Rida,
I second what Cbear says. Chicago is a great place to live (I'm biased though ;-) ). However, Chicago is plagued with poor cashflow. If, as your profile suggests, you are purchasing property to be a landlord you must look outside the city. That being said, I know plenty of people who live in Chicago and own property right outside of the city.

Just be careful about publicizing that you are looking to buy and have cash on hand. There are a lot of vultures in this area looking for what they perceive as " newbies" with cash.

Tim

Tony D.

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Syracuse/New York, NY
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If you can take advantage of the historically weak dollar, you can find some GREAT opportunities if you choose the right property and invest with the right mind-set. I recently wrote a blog for a newsletter that was just released about opportunities in this market. Since I think it goes directly to your question, I'll post it here for your consideration...

For years, many investors were fortunate to ride a seemingly unstoppable wave of price appreciation, fueled by a stagnant stock market, unscrupulous lending practices and low interest rates. Since the price appreciation was not supported by sound fundamentals the era of " buy, hold, and pray" came to a crashing end. However, high foreclosure rates, increased housing inventory and declining prices may represent a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for investors to make intelligent long term acquisitions. Here are a few points to consider:

* Although banks are tightening lending criteria, if you have a strong credit history and favorable debt-income ratio, you will still be able to obtain an attractive loan at historically low interest rates.

* With increased foreclosures and more restrictive lending policies preventing many potential homeowners from purchasing a home, rental demand is expected to increase. According to Nicholas Retsinas of Harvard University, “…If you have high demand and a restrained supply the only result is higher prices.

In the near term, you will also see rents go up.” As the price of real estate decreases and rents inch upward, the return on your investment increases.

* Warren Buffett recently compared money managers who promise double-digit returns to the queen in “Alice in Wonderland.” Instead of relying on appreciation, today’s investors must analyze the economic fundamentals of every acquisition and pursue every deal with the right mentality: 1) take a long-term investment approach; and 2) adjust your investment return expectations to reflect more sensible market conditions. Although you may never achieve the returns gained (and lost) over the past decade, an investment in real estate uniquely offers financial benefits that most other investments do not, such as long term tax depreciation and the ability to significantly leverage your money.

The current real estate environment offers smart investors enormous opportunities: decreasing prices; increasing rents; historically low interest rates. By adopting a long-term perspective in your investment philosophy and modifying your expectations to reflect a more sober economic reality, the current real estate market may offer some of the best investment opportunities yet.

Tony D'Anzica, JD
Dynamx Realty, Inc.

Tony D.

Real Estate Attorney
Syracuse/New York, NY
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One commentator made a very good point - it depends on where in the US you invest in. We spent years researching and visiting markets throughout the east coast before we decided to settle in Syracuse. We've been successful in Syracuse, NY so far and we are very optimistic about the opportunities here. Bucking the national trend, Syracuse has shown modest, consistent growth and economic forecasts indicate that this trend will continue in 2008-2009. Here are some recent encouraging statistics:

* In January 2008, the National Association of Realtors named Syracuse as one of the four healthiest housing markets in the nation.

* Home sales in greater Syracuse increased 11% in December 2007, compared with December 2006, according to the National Association of Realtors. That contrasts with a 22% decline in sales nationwide.

* The New York State Association of Realtors reports that the median price of homes sold in Onondaga County rose 4.8% to $131,000 between 2006 and 2007.

* Fortune Magazine ranks Syracuse #5 on its list of cities where home values are expected to rise, with projected increases of 3.6% in 2008.

* CNN recently ranked Syracuse #99 out of 100 cities in terms of foreclosure rates.

* According to the Housing Cycle Barometer, Syracuse ranks as one of the least overpriced cities in the nation, coming in at #118 in a list of 189 cities.

Hope this info helps you!

Brad W.


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If you are a true investor then now is the best time to buy property. It is a great market for rentals (due to so many people are getting foreclosed on), and you can still make money flipping if you know what you are doing.

Harrison P.

Real Estate Investor
Indianapolis, Indiana
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Yes, now is a great time to invest in the U.S.

Why?

Good News: The United States is in the economic toilet right now, with no signs that things are going to get better anytime soon.

You might be asking me why that is good news?????

It is an opportunity to " Buy Low" and " Sell High" later!

It seems that people buy EVERYTHING when it is on sale, with the exception of Stocks and Real Estate. This phenomenon has always baffled me.

I have investors ask me all of the time if we are at the bottom? I don't know......probably not...........I am almost sure we are not.........but if you wait for the bottom, I can promise you that you will miss it.

It is my honest opinion that there has NEVER been a better time in history to make the move into real estate investing. However, it has to be done smart and without emotion.

If someone is trying to pressure you into an investment in this market, walk away! The only pressure that should be applied in this market is by the buyer. If you miss out on an investment property, do not worry about it, there are many.....many.....many more opportunities out there right now.......

Have a Profitable Day!

Saxon S.

Real Estate Consultant
Aiea, HI
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While REO properties are at an all time high, it's a great opportunity to take advantage of these hightly discounted properties. The U.S. has quite an abundance of these deals ranging at an average of 40 to 70 cents on the dollar. However, looking towards investing in other countries is not a bad idea either. Namely, Japan. I have picked up most of my properties there at 20-30 cents on the dollar. There are many great deals on the outside of the U.S.

Toby M.

Residential Real Estate Broker
Aspen, CO
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Ok, reached my target yesterday. Man what a ride, much faster than I thought.

In any case 1.5978 is the current all time high. I think the air is getting very very thin up here and we should see some correction soon.

All foreigners, get the check book out and buy something in the US. Just make sure to buy in the right areas ;-)

Marco C.


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on my opinion, periods of crisis is the best to invest for the one who have money.

in the crisis, rich become richer usually.

and if you are european like me, maybe it's the best chance today.

Jason H.

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Oakton, VA
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It is ALWAYS the right time to being buying somewhere in the states. You should never stop investing no matter what. Of course with different cycles you will change your techniques, but it is always a great time to buy. In every market there are ways to make money.

Hunter G.

Real Estate Investor
cardiff by the sea, CA
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Originally posted by "rida"
I am currently in Europe and converting my Euros to dollars.

WHY?

There is no reason for you to convert your euros to dollars. Our government has shown that they are going to do everything they can to deflate our currency.

The dollar is going to be worth 0 soon!