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· Loveland, CO


A little history. I bought this place for $52K in '03, put about $2K into it and sold it for $75, 2 1/2 years later I foreclose and the IDIOTS had;

1. Thrown away a really cool " franklin' stove (or sold it)
2. Done some " custom" sheetrock work, bullnose corners, coffered ceiling in den, " archway" between den and dining/kitchen. Some of it was good work, some was unfinished, some looked like hammered s**t.
3. Ceramic tile on the counter tops. 6" tile, NO BULLNOSES or rounded edges at the front, did not use hardi backer, just glued it to the plywood. Hammered s**t would be a compliment to this job.
4. Put copper foil on the backsplashes, didn't actaully look too bad because it was new and shiny.
5. Threw away most of the casing he had taken down, some was in a pile in the back yard and I salvaged about 1/3 of it.
6. Hosed the carpet.

So I finish the sheetrock ($1100) added central heat and air ($5500) which was an upgrade, new carpet ($1800) and resell it for $92K.

My new buyers decide they want to be landlords, despite not knowing anything about how to do it. They rent to a single mom who can't afford it, water heater goes out and they have to late pay me because they have no reserves, tenant's boyfriend moves in, dealing drugs, beating her and kid, sherrif at the door twice a week.

Despite being on a well (free water) they NEVER WATER the front lawn so it dies.

I just got it back two weeks ago and went to take a look! @%&!!

Someone (probably ex tenant) kicked in 4 of the interior doors, two big holes in the walls, cherry kool aid stains on carpet, dead lawn, cut some wires in the walls, NEVER cleaned the kitchen and looks like used lard to cook everything, the cooktop looks like a couple of " smallish fires" may have happened and the (original, 1979) oven has NEVER BEEN CLEANED, oh and to top it off we have a family of THREE SKUNKS LIVING IN THE CRAWL SPACE.

And of course I no longer live 6 miles from this place, I live 950 miles away.

I just spent 1 1/2 weeks working on it, about 30 " contractor size" garbage bags, 5 gallons of paint, a million small things that you always run into.

Anyway I found a " craigslist" cooktop and wall oven for pretty cheap, my wife helped a lot, even though she hates RE investing and my neighbor has been a godsend because the trash service only picks up the rolling dumpster, NOTHING ELSE, so he has hauled the other stuff to the dumpster at his work.

I'm heading back to TX to hit the kitchen, exterior paint, front yard and finish the interior paint (oil base on the trim). I'll have an air mattress, the stove works and there is a " working" fridge in the place. I've got a Mr. Coffee (thank god) and enough cookery to do OK with. My former neighbor lets me use his ladders and some other power tools (gas weedeater etc) so I don't have to haul that stuff around.

My (plan?, wish?, hope?, prayer) idea is that I'll have it in the paper next week for about $100K-$105K and offer some " fix up rebates" to any hardworking young couple for work done over the next three years-carpet, roof, landscaping, windows. If not I may be spending too much time in TX instead of up in CO which really POs Mrs. allcash.

This is why I haven't been on here in a couple of weeks.

Wish me well.

cash


Property Manager · Honolulu, HI


Wow...what a nightmare! Some properties just have bad Karma. Sounds like this time you better sell for....All Cash!


Real Estate Investor · Katy, Texas


wow, that is SCARY

hope it works better for you, why dont you just try to sell it retail in case the 'karma' is bad with that one


Homeowner · Shreveport, LA


Well it sounds like through it all you are still making okay money off of the property. Tenants are tenants. If you were not making money I would say it was going really bad.


Real Estate Investor · tucson, Alabama


WOW! In retrospect, is there anything you would have done differently in order to have avoided all of this mess?


· Loveland, CO


Thanks for the kind words everyone. I'm not sure I could've done much differently (other than alter my basic marketing strategy), I know when I run an ad that says; "owner will finance with $2,000 down", that a lot of my callers are going to be marginally, or not at all, qualified.

That said, every time I've sold it has been for over FMV. The $52K I paid originally was for an MLS listed (Realtor owned) property. When I sold it the same month I knew it was a stretch. Two years ago I sold it for $92K when every agent I talked to said $85K TOPS.

On the plus side I did get $2K from the owners on their insurance claim ( I can't believe the insurance company paid!) I "scared" them into keeping the electricity in their name with a promise that I'll repay them! The big deal with the electric is that the provider is an electrical co-op and I'd have to pay $150 just for the privelege of rejoining the co-op!

I'm down to the "smallish" jobs and had it in the paper starting last Saturday, and signed a CONTRACT ON SUNDAY- $100K even! Closing a week from tomorrow so I don't have to work from "sun to sun" to get it finished!

The place is lookiing very nice and the $2K I got from the deadbeats via the insurance claim is going to cover just about everything!

So I've gone from depressive to manic to normal in the last few weeks. Also on the plus side I brought my golf clubs to TX with me and I've been playing a bit this week!

But sleeping on the air mattress and having to drive into town (8 miles each way) to go to starbucks to use the computer sucks.

But next week I'll be back in CO enjoying some cooler weather and the cool $3K downstroke and hoping that this sale "takes".

all cash


· OR


That's why I don't carry paper.

The only time I seller finance is when the property can't be bank financed and I want an enormous down payment.

Those of you who do finance, should at least do enough reference checking to verify that the buyers are someone you would rent to.


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