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· Minneapolis, Minnesota


I imagine this one has been covered but searching the forums didn't help.

Looking for opinions on accepting rent payments in cash:

I'm probably being a bit paranoid, but it seems like an area that could manipulated by a devious tenant. No paper trail. A tenant could claim they paid xyz when the really paid zyx.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Todd


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Todd, if you are accepting cash make sure to give them a receipt always. Sometimes even photo-copying the actual cash will help. Remeber, Cash cant bounce like a check. Or make sure you get a money order or bank certified check. Most renters dont do this.

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Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


Here is my solution. I give all my tenants deposit slips to an account at a bank with 23 branches in my area. They run by the closest bank, put address on the slip and I get money, LOTSA money!! I don't have to wait for the mail, or worry about being available after hours, etc. I'm sure you could also tell your tenants that to pay your mgr, they must receive a receipt or the rent didn't count.. That will also work. Rich


Real Estate Investor · Mont Belvieu, Texas


I absolutely do not accept cash. It's in the lease and I go over this with every tenant to make sure they know we're a No Cash business.

Last thing I want is someone's junkie brother getting the idea that we have a bunch of cash on hand around the first of the month.



From a mortgage standpoint it is necessary to provide cancelled checks if you ever plan on selling the house to the buyer.

Also if you ever get to the point of going to court over an eviction you can prove that the tenant has not paid with checks. With cash it is thier word vs. yours.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


I receive the vast majority of my rents IN CASH. Cash doesn't bounce and I don't have to wait several days to make sure it won't bounce. I do accept checks from my better tenants (never for the initial rent payment or security deposit). Did you know that a money order can be cancelled? They can!

I give every tenant that pays cash a receipt. I write the tenant's name on the top of the stack of money that I get from each tenant so that I know who gave me each bill. I check each bill with a counterfeit pen before making the deposit.

I have evicted dozens of tenants and have never had an issue. When we get to court, if they don't have a receipt, they didn't pay rent.

Finally, I carry a gun (all the time) and am serious about self-protection. It would be a serious mistake for some scumbag to attempt to rob me.

Mike


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Mike, I have to say your posts can be quite colorful! :lol:

At any rate, I do not see why an investor would not except cash. It can not bounce and there is no waiting period. That said, placing the responsibility to make a deposit in an account on the tenant saves the investor time (which = $) as Rich mentioned, and that is a viable way to collect.
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Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


Many years ago in CA, I had a money order company go out of business and I was stuck with the worthless check.
I still like my way. No cash, no time receiving rents and tenant has a bank receipt to prove rent was paid. If someone has an easier, safer way than that, tell me.


SFR Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, California


Originally posted by Rich Weese
Here is my solution. I give all my tenants deposit slips to an account at a bank with 23 branches in my area. They run by the closest bank, put address on the slip and I get money, LOTSA money!! I don't have to wait for the mail, or worry about being available after hours, etc. I'm sure you could also tell your tenants that to pay your mgr, they must receive a receipt or the rent didn't count.. That will also work. Rich

Rich that seems like an interesting idea. So you just look at the scanned deposits and track who has/hasn't paid?


Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Why not set up something like Paypal or some online rent pay account.


Real Estate Investor · Henderson, Texas


I only have four properties, so it's a lot easier for me than some of you larger landlords. But I leave it to my renters. Check or cash, whichever they prefer, but always give them a written receipt.


· Wyoming


I use Rich's method of providing deposit slips. I recommend it with one minor reservation. We didn't plan very well in advance and now I have several tenants that pay the same amount each month. When one doesn't pay on time I have to figure out which one and that's a bit of a pain. Next year all of our leases will be odd numbers ($502 for example) which will make it pretty foolproof.


SFR Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, California


Originally posted by Mr_Investor
Why not set up something like Paypal or some online rent pay account.


And give away 2-3% of net rents?

Chris - does your bank scan deposit slips and make them avaliable online? Can you look that way?


· Wyoming


Wells Fargo doesn't scan the deposits. I wish they did. Is that normal?


Real Estate Investor · Alabama


Chris - WF has some new ATMs that scan your individual checks and gives you a receipt with the images of the checks on them.


SFR Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, California


Originally posted by Chris A
Wells Fargo doesn't scan the deposits. I wish they did. Is that normal?


Wells Fargo does not for me. US Bank scans front and back of all deposit slips for me. Very handy...


Originally posted by Connie Brzowski
I absolutely do not accept cash. It's in the lease and I go over this with every tenant to make sure they know we're a No Cash business.


Be very careful with that approach. There is a lot of case law dating back to late 1700s/early 1800s covering this. You are basically saying the lawful currency of the United States is NOT acceptable to pay the debt your tenant owes. The courts have consistently ruled if US currency is not acceptable to pay a debt, the debt does not exist.

You could require them to meet you at your bank and immediately deposit the money, or you could give them deposit slips and let them deposit it themselves.

BTW, if you use the deposit slip method, make sure it is an account you sweep the funds out of daily. By giving your tenant a deposit slip you have given them everything they need to make withdrawals too.

Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


I still love my way of collecting the rents. My bank does scan the deposit slips. It is not a big national bank, but an area bank with offices all over the Mcallen TX (Rio Grande Valley area) where I am.


· Baytown, Texas


Originally posted by Taz
[BTW, if you use the deposit slip method, make sure it is an account you sweep the funds out of daily. By giving your tenant a deposit slip you have given them everything they need to make withdrawals too.

i was thinking along the same lines. I remember a time when my mom's account had money taken out by a lady with the same name. She had her own account at the bank but somehow it was taken out of my mom's. If you have a common name I'd be leery about giving out my bank account number.


Real Estate Investor · Ohio


No only might the tenant withdrawal all the funds from your account, but you're providing the tenant with a lot of information that they shouldn't have - like where you bank and your account number.

That just makes it easier for someone to sue you. I don't want my tenants to know where I bank; where I live; my home phone number; etc. The less they know, the better.

I like CASH (after it's been checked with a counterfeit pen, of course)!

Mike


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