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Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


I had a tenant move in 9/1 and on 9/7 I had to go to the house because of fleas. When I entered the home, there were three dogs (contract stated only 2 dogs), dog crap all over the basement floor, garbage all over the living area and the yard had tons of garbage.
I sent the tenant a certified letter on the 16th of September that stated that we will inspect the home on the 25th of September at 12:30, he has not accepted the letter.
I did do a month to month lease and I want him out... what can I do?


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Give him notice the lease will not be renewed, in accordance with the lease and local laws. Typically, that would mean you could notify him before the end of September that the lease will be terminated as of the end of October. But your lease terms and local laws prevail.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


So I would have to give him a 30 day. I live in Iowa and I know there is a seven day to quit.


Real Estate Investor · Baltimore, Maryland


In addition to the advise provided...

Assuming that your lease allows you to enter the premises with sufficient notice show up for the inspection. And bring a camera.

Also, in the future always send coorespondance to tenants certified and first class.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


What does your lease say? I'm not sure what you mean by "seven day to quit". The "pay or quit" is used when they're late with the rent or have some other violation. You want to know what your law is for giving notice the lease will be terminated.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


I was referring to the Pay or Quit. There are three regulations in the signed lease that he is breaking.
The lease is month to month, I have contact with my lawyer and this tenant is a client of their law firm so they are unable to assist with this issue. The tenant is a 18 year old on disability - I wonder why he's on disability. So should I contact him today and inform him that I will be there on Friday at 12:30 or should I just go since I sent the certified letter.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Sounds like you want to try to evict him. Is the rent late? If so, that's a straightforward eviction. Even so, it may not be something you can complete by Oct 31, depending on the timelines in your area.

If you're going to evict him because he has too many dogs or there's poop in the basement, you have a harder case. Better to simply give notice that the lease is being terminated and get him out once the proper notice goes by. That requires no filings, no court hearing, no possibility the judge will tell him to get rid of the dog and clean up the poop. No reason to take the hard road. You've already done the simple thing by putting him on a month-to-month. Now just give notice and get him out.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


So I will give him an eviction notice for October 31st. Should I do this after I get his rent for October?


Real Estate Lender · Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


Sounds to me like an eviction would be pretty hairy in this situation. I think that you should take Jon's advice and just notify your tenant that you will not be renewing the lease for the month of November, and that he must be out on October 31st. Give him 30 days notice.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


No, there's no eviction involved. You just give notice you're terminating the lease. A month-to-month lease can be terminated at any time by either party (you or the tenant) provided the terminating party gives proper notice. If your lease is typical, and your laws are typical, you would need to give this BEFORE the end of September.

If they don't pay the Oct rent, claiming you can "take it out of the security deposit", THEN post a pay or quit and do an eviction based on the unpaid rent. That's an eviction that you can easily win in court.

Again, what does your lease say about termination? What are the local laws? You say you have a lawyer. If you don't know, call and ask them how much notice you must give to terminate a month to month lease.

If you really just want the dog gone and the mess cleaned up, post a notice to remedy those problems or to quit. Maybe that will shake him up enough fix the problems. If nothing else, it creates a paper trail so that if you do eventually want to try to evict him on the basis of the mess, you have some documentation.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


I would hazzard a guess that most 18 year olds do not make good tenants. Hopefully he will learn to be a good tenant through this "hardship."


Real Estate Coach · St. Louis, Missouri


Evict them. You may have to get creative to give them letter.

Brian Haskins


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Sigh. Once again, because it is a month to month lease, there is no need for the hassle and expense of an eviction. Give proper notice and terminate the lease. An eviction would only be needed if they refuse to pay or if they refuse to leave.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


I am going to go ahead with what Jon suggested not renewing their lease. My challenge is: I have to give them 30 days, there rent is due 9/1 for $475... can I wait to give them their letter re: not renewing their lease til I get there $ or what will happen if they get their letter is... they will say i can keep deposit that's there rent. And with a 30 day notice I think they are going to trash the place... I have seen what they have done in 7 days.


Real Estate Investor · North Carolina


fert --

You said you had an attorney but that your tenant had the same attorney. So go FIND ANOTHER ATTORNEY. Your questions here are too lease-specific and state law-specific for any but the most general answers.

If your tenant is playing these games now chances are you WILL have to evict.

A side thought: (good) tenants on disability are usually great rent payers. Perhaps you can train this moron. Or... perhaps you can find who is paying disability and complain to them. I once had a deadbeat tenant that I complained to the case worker about constantly. The case worker couldn't do anything about the tenant's spending habits, but did increase her surprise visits enough that my tenant eventually ended up losing her free money.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


If you have to give exactly 30 days notice, and you want to terminate the lease 10/31, then you would have until 10/1 to give them the notice. If you don't get the rent until 10/4, and then you give notice, you'd be stuck with them until 11/3 (exactly 30 days) or 11/30 (end of the next month.

Place may get trashed. That's part of the business. If you're losing sleep at night over that, you should get out of this business.

If they refuse to give you rent after you give notice, THEN EVICT!! Now you have very strong grounds for an eviction. Post a three day pay or quit as soon as the rent is late. A judge WILL award you the eviction. You may not get them out any quicker, but now they have an eviction on their record.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Atlantic , Iowa


I am not worried about the house being trashed... are you kidding it already is! I've seen some bad houses and I know this will be one but that's why we have guys / gals working for us.


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