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Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


Looking for feedback. I have a lease with a renter who moved on January 19th. After moving him out, his mother moved in and changed the locks. The police were called to remove her as trespasser, but the officers would not because she stated she had lived there the whole time. The eviction process has been started. However, we are now having water damage in the apartment below. She will not allow us in to fix the problem. My only option is to either allow the damage or cut the water off. As you know, cutting utilities off to a tenant is frowned upon by judges. My intention is to take pictures and show proof of damage and then cut the watewr off. Any thoughts?


Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Missouri


Cut the water off, call the police, bust the door down and make the reapir, put the door up and file a police report for vandalism if you can, since she intentionally caused the damage due to your suit against her. I'd ask the officer to arrest her. You have a right to protect your property and a tenant can not lock you out. Change the locks and tell her to pay a key deposit! You probably won't get any money out of that tenant. While you are there, if there is any sign of drugs, you can set them out under suspected drug usage statutes of your state, usually like immediately. Let her hire an attorney, she probably can't. IMO I'd be in their face real quick! Good Luck, Bill

Updated: 11:18PM, 03/02/2010

Hi, there is alot of noise about my "bust the door down" comment from, let's say, those with agendas. So, fo clarification, in Missouri and most everywhere, a landlord can enter a unit in an emergency to protect life and or property. In fact, if you see


Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


Thank you for the feedback. I've had police out 3 times. They will not help with access. The squater stands behind the door witht the police on the phone. I've spoken to a Magistrate Judge who frowned upon the idea of forcing my way in, but had no suggestions when I mentioned the damages.


· Orlando, Florida


What an unfortunate situation. I hope that gets resolved soon. Is Georgia a tenant-friendly state?

Did she move in at the same time she was living in there, or after he'd left? If it's the latter, I guess the remedy to prevent this from ever happening again would be to change the locks immediately after the old tenant moves out.


Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Missouri


The judge is not going to tell you how to cure your problem. Go talk to a police officer when you find one, do it in person, tell him whats going on and tell him you need in the property to protect the other units. If you force your way in, there better be damage or an emergency to repair. He should go to prevent any trouble. Otherwise, as I said, sneak up and get in there, they can't arrest you so long as you don't touch her or her stuff. Ask an attorney! You have rights as well! Bill


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


What does your lawyer say about the situation?

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Robj,
Is this an apartment in a building or a SFR?


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


Tim, The OP has this statement in it:

"The eviction process has been started. However, we are now having water damage in the apartment below. She will not allow us in to fix the problem."

Does not sound like a SFR to me.


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


Good point Steve.

Have you filed criminal charges for theft of your lock and vandalism via the water in the unit below? I know it sounds like slim to none chances but you need to create a paper trail.


Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


Thank you to everyone for the quick feedback. I have spoken to several police officers including a supervisor at the property.. All stated they they cannot force their way in our allow me to. Squater is there all of the time so I cannot go at a when she is not there. I scheduled a time with her with several officers there for the next day. Once we got there, she would not let us in and then called the police. The squater told the police she had been there for months. Of course this is a lie. However, the police are not willing to take the chance that she has established residency. My attorney, a judge, police, and several deputy sheriffs all believe she is a squater, but can only advise me to file for eviction. With the exception of the judge, they did believe I should shut off the water and document the damage with picture.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


Perhaps your building has some water issue in another unit that requires the water to the entire building to be shut off out at the street?!?


Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


You are right on with this. If we shut off the water, it will be to the whole building. Not just to that apartment. The Sheriifs department said she will be served to today. I was told by a neighbor that she plans to answer the eviction to ride it out. If she answers, we are in for another 3 weeks.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


You said you already have water damage below. So you will probably have to cut out a section of ceiling in the unit below to repair the ceiling anyway; you might want to consider doing that now to examine the nature of the water problem better.


Real Estate Investor · Baltimore, Maryland


If she is claiming tenancy then the lease in place with her son is still in effect. What does that lease say about landlord entry into the building?

If it allows entry... usually with some pre-notification... send her a letter, certified and first class... tell her you are coming in at a specific date and time... hire a lock smith, bring the police and then exercise your rights as a landlord.

If your lease don't contain an entry clause... make sure that the next one does.

Best of luck!


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


Originally posted by Peter Giardini
... If it allows entry... usually with some pre-notification... send her a letter, certified and first class... tell her you are coming in at a specific date and time... hire a lock smith, bring the police and then exercise your rights as a landlord.

...


When it comes to notifications like these, I would suggest in addition to what was already mentioned, to post it on the main entry to the building and on the tenant's entry door to their unit; and, on any door they pass through in between going from the outside of the building to their unit. Makes it harder for them to say you did not attempt to give proper notice, when everybody else in the building can see it too.

Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


The lease does give me entry into the property with notification. I even had 4 police officers there when I gave notice and witness a scheduled time to enter. At the scheduled time, she would not allow entry. The police were called and they would not allow me to enforce my lease. I still cannot get access with the police present.


Real Estate Investor · Indiana, Indiana


PM sent.


· Orlando, Florida


This is a long shot, but it sounds like she could be mentally unstable. Perhaps there's some way of having her declared a risk of harm to herself and others and removed from the property for her own safety. Florida has something called the Baker Act to this effect.


Real Estate Investor · Tennessee


You are right on. I was told by her son she is Bi Polar. The police officers who have spoken to her believes she is 59 watts short of a 60 watt bulb.


· Orlando, Florida


Maybe forget the police for a moment and contact a social worker or whatever social welfare agency handles your area. They may have some ideas on how to handle this. Maybe they can do something to empower the police to be able to act, too.




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