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Real Estate Investor · Madison, Wisconsin


After reading many posts on the forums for the last month or so I decided it was time to officially introduce myself. My name is Bill Andrae and I have spent the last 10 years or so living in Madison, WI ( GO Badgers!) after growing up in Milwaukee.

I spent the last 6 years working for a HealthCare IT company traveling consistently around the country implementing an electronic medical record for major hospitals. The entire time I was doing that I got interested in real estate and wondering how I could eventually invest enough to make a nice income on the side. I recently left my job and am waiting to start a new job as a local IT consultant.

After reading many books on real estate and talking about it all the time, I'm finally starting to "walk the walk". My wife and I close next week on a new home which also happens to be a short sale. I still can't believe both lenders approved the offer in less than 30 days. I don't think that is typical at all.

In addition, we also are renting my wife's condo which we couldn't sell in this market. Unfortunately, we are at a slight negative cash flow. Trying to work out a deal to sell to our tenant.

I'm also starting to look at other investment properties in town, focusing on 2-4 units in short sale or REO status. I went to Don DeRosa's investment bootcamp in March as was excited about buying properties "subject to" but have had a hard time finding private lenders to fund the deals.

It's probably not going to be easy, but I'm trying to find properties at a steep enough discount that I won't have to put a lot of money down. The local banks tell me that if the purchase price is 75% or less of the appraised value, then I will not have to put any money down. I'll believe it when it happens I guess.

My entire goal is to eventually work for myself full time investing in properties. We all know that the tax code was written for the small business owner. Plus, who wants to work 8-5 for someone else the rest of their lives, right? :D

One of the biggest things I've learned so far about real estate investing is that you just need to jump in and do it otherwise you will never learn. Looking forward to learning more on BP.


Residential Real Estate Broker · Conroe, Texas


Hi Bill,

Welcome to the group. I grew up around your neck of the woods. I have family and friends in Milwaukee. How's the multi family real estate market in Madison?


Real Estate Investor · Madison, Wisconsin


Still trying to figure it out. I'm surprised how few properties actually cash flow when you analyze them. Then again, I'm being pretty conservative with my numbers. Minimum $100/unit cash flow and 30-40% expenses.

It's a small market but I suppose it makes it easier to keep on top of what's going on.


Residential Real Estate Broker · Conroe, Texas


I always advocate starting in one's own back yard. Have you considered pre-forclosures?


Real Estate Investor · Madison, Wisconsin


I've thought about it since there seem to be a lot of them right now. I've read about direct mail marketing. Any other recommendations? Perhaps Craigslist?


Residential Real Estate Broker · Conroe, Texas


I've done good moving rentals on CRAIGSLIST. I think properly utilized, it could be a great tool. DIRECT MAIL MARKETING...I send out a newsletter to past customers. It brings in an occasional deal which more than pays for the cost. I've noticed an increase in results from online efforts. I credit BP for much of it.

As for finding deals...you build a regiment of sources til the cream rises to the top. Every market is different.

I would try going thru rags, daily papers, real estate magazines, network with new realtors, drive thru the neighborhoods look for abandon properties and unkept yards. Then go to www.anywho.com and try to find the owners ph#. Call FSBO's, check courthouse filings.

Find out which city department handles complaints filed by the neighbors of poorly kept properties. Chase fire trucks....lol. (just a joke)

Sometimes, I just go knock on doors. I'll find a house for sale in the neighborhood, check it out, then talk to the neighbors let then know that I'm thinking about buying and ask them if they know about any good deals in the area.

Good Luck!


Multi-family Investor · Bellefonte, Pennsylvania


Greetings Bill, welcome to BiggerPockets.

-Michael


Real Estate Investor · Madison, Wisconsin


Thanks Michael.

Dick, great suggestions. Much appreciated. Once I get settled in my new house I will try some of your techniques.

Any thoughts related to buying with little or no cash down except just finding the correctly priced property in relation to appraised value?
Thanks.


Residential Real Estate Broker · Conroe, Texas


That's a good question. I'm not aware of any conventional products. But, there's hard money at 65% - 75% after repair value.

There's still creative ways to structure no money down deals. In today's economic climate there's a ton of individuals just walking away from homes. My heart goes out to them. Many of them just want to stop the bleeding.

If you really want to help people and can provide a solution to their problems, sometimes you can put together no money down transactions.

There's still lease options, sweat equity, assignments, or a new concept that I'm working on whereby you do an option on a property with a potentially modifiable loan product. This could be great way to cash flow alot of inventory.


K J

· Arizona


Welcome to the forum Bill.


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