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Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


Hi All,
I am a 23 year old female, financial analyst, no bills, no debt, perfect credit score, and a very large amount of cash for a large DP and an even larger amount of cashing coming when I turn 25. I'd like to take advantage of the market and my great situation in life. I'm not sure what type of properties to look into and I'd like to make the most of my cash to try and get the biggest bang for my buck. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Welcome to BiggerPockets. "Large" is a subjective term and it is also relative to the different investment options out there. Are you interested in a 6-figure capital outlay or 7 or more figures?


Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


55K cash in the bank

250K cash when i'm 25 if I choose to take it out of a trust fund.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Avoiding the more personal information of exact figures, what are your interests in RE investing? Do you want to be a landlord (own properties and rent to tenants) and if so, residential or commercial?
Do you want to be passive or very hands on?
Are you interested in working with desperate homeowners in potential foreclosure trouble? Are you shy, outgoing, a leader, or what?
Tell us a bit more and then we will have more info to direct you to the right path.

Will B
Nationwide

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Rehabber · Tucson, Arizona


Originally posted by jennifer23
55K cash in the bank

250K cash when i'm 25 if I choose to take it out of a trust fund.


If possible, keep it in the trust fund or see if you can start a seperate trust and avoid taking a tax hit. If the trust already has real estate, perhaps doing a 1031 exchange may work for you as well.

The point is, you can leverage the asset (trust) without cashing out and you might preserve some of the principal that way. There many lenders willing to collateralize your trust without first cashing out.

I recommend you seek advice from a reputable trust services company, a CPA and an attorney familar with trust administration.

Keep your $55K for a rainy day.

Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


Hi Will,
I wouldn't call myself shy but i'm not naive either i'm young I don't know everything and I just want to learn, therefor I dont think commercial property is something I would like to get into right now might be over my head. That said I am very hands on, but I dont want a property that is extremely time consuming, my fiance is a commercial builder so he has all the construction connections and know how to do a flip but i'm not sure what type, should I rehab and hold? should I buy one property with my large DP or leverage that to buy a few. I'd like multi rentals, I'm in the New Orleans area but I don't know how I feel about section 8, this will be my first investment and my first experience as a landlord so I just want to play it smart with what i've got!


Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


i dont like rainy days! Im going back to grad school to get my mba/macct so hopefully i'll be my own CPA in a few years, that said, my fiance has a house so I won't need the 55K for that, luckily that wasn't part of the trust it was straight up bank stocks which i sold in april 08, lucky me!!!!!! so i've just been holding that cash since, i have a job with a decent salary i dont need money i just want to make a smart real estate investment that i can learn from and that will appreciate over time.


Rehabber · Tucson, Arizona


Originally posted by jennifer23
i dont like rainy days! Im going back to grad school to get my mba/macct so hopefully i'll be my own CPA in a few years, that said, my fiance has a house so I won't need the 55K for that, luckily that wasn't part of the trust it was straight up bank stocks which i sold in april 08, lucky me!!!!!! so i've just been holding that cash since, i have a job with a decent salary i dont need money i just want to make a smart real estate investment that i can learn from and that will appreciate over time.


Your young, intelligent, and ambitious. Sounds like you also have good support around you and that is half the battle.

As far as direction goes, you need to feel comfortable with your strategy and sounds like residential is the way to go.

I believe, since your pursuing CPA licensing, you should approach RE investing as second business. As a CPA, you will have many opportunites in the years to come to add to your RE portfolio as deals will undoubtedly come across your desk.

With that said, I believe a good strategy is diversification. Invest in small multi-families and SFR's for cash flow and quality properties with good locations that will appreicate at a higher rate.

I buy and hold and I actually buy both low-end multi's and SFR's and high quality properties with great locations. Since I believe we are headed for and asset bubble in 5 to 7 years, we will see higher-end properties properties appreciate again. My bread and butter cash flow properties will not appreciate as much, but will keep on bringing that all important cash flow.

Since your educated in finance, I believe there will be huge opportunites in commerical properties within the next year or so and you might consider small office buildings as well.

Anyway, good luck in your endeavors


Real Estate Investor · Manassas, Virginia


Welcome aboard Jennifer

RE Investing can be fun and very lucrative at the same time. You definitely want to do something you feel comfortable with so you can keep doing it over and over again.

What is your goals, and what do you want to achieve in say 1 to 10 years time?


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Sitting on cash is a losing effort as you are losing to inflation, just the same as others who invest in CD's. That 3%-4% return is a loser, especially after you factor in taxes.

I would suggest finding an experienced investor to work with who invests in what interests you (possibly a buy and hold or even a rehab flip with your connections). You can bring some cash to the table ($50k) and the investor can bring the experience and their connections. May be a win win for both.

In a buy and hold scenario, you are young so you have time. If you were to buy 3 doors per year for the next 15 years, you would end up with 45 rentals at the 15 year mark. That could amount to a nice side income via cash flow, plus the tax deductions and the principle reductions.

You can also incorproate some rehab flips to gain more cash to buy more rentals. Bottom line these days is the difficulty factor in obtaining traditional financing. I try to avoid it at all costs and am willing to pay higher interest rates (10% or more) for the ease or private money.

If you truely want passive income from the cash, you could become a private investor, although $50k is not that much, it is a start at your age. You should get at least 10% on that ($5k per year) and grwo it quite fast over the next few years.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com
Website: http://www.barnardenterprises.com
info@barnardenterprises.com


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Jennifer, $55K is not that much money. So you should think of smaller investments. I am not very familiar with Louisiana but there's a guy here on BP (Eddie) who does really well in Alabama. He buys properties for around $40,000 or so and rents them within the 2% rule. (If you do not know what that is, you should read all the landlording forum posts before investing any money.)

I would suggest that you buy 3 or 4 SFHs for low prices and rent them out for a good cash yield with equity of around 30% to 40% and the balance through debt. I am assuming you have good credit or your fiance can help you with that.

I would not partner with another investor in your case because there is not enough money to create meaningful profits for two people.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


I would not partner with another investor in your case because there is not enough money to create meaningful profits for two people
I don't really agree with this statement, but do think the balance is good advice. If you can buy properties for under $40k, place 20% down on each ($11k or so, including closing costs) you can buy up to 4 and still have over $10k for a reserve account. The problem could be getting financing for $32k for each property as many lenders will not loan such small amounts due to the lack of profit in them. A relationship with a local bank may be a necessity.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com
Website: http://www.barnardenterprises.com
info@barnardenterprises.com


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


Look into the tax sales in NO.

You can often get the whole property for less than 3K. After the reclaimation period, of course.

Most will need a very good cleanup, but should be ok.

With your connections you should be able to quickly do that due diligence necessary to check out those properties. And you could even provide work for rehabbers or even wholesale those properties to rehabbers if you dont care to finance the work needed.

With the problems from the past hurricane, and the number of people that just dissappeared after that, right now should be about the time that these properties hit the tax sales and you should have a large inventory of properties to choose from as opposed to some tax sales where the investors actually bid up the prices until they are not worth it.

You can potentially do all the previously mentioned strategies through the tax sales. You can buy and hold, fix-n-flip, wholesale, and you do not have the financing thresholds to worry about.


Real Estate Investor · Honolulu, Hawaii


Hi Jennifer, and welcome to BP!

As you can figure out pretty fast, the members here are very helpful with someone like yourself that wants to make it happen.

The more information you can share about yourself, the better direction you will get from experienced investors. If you reread Will Barnard's advice, it is very solid.

Welcome again, and look forward to hearing about the endeavors.

-Matt


Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


Thanks everyone!

I'll try to address all the points referenced above.

I don't think I'd like to start out with another investor just yet I still have many things to learn.

I have been looking at properties in the New Orleans trying to find some that fit the 2% rule but I'm not too sure where to go to get the good deals. I've been to realtor.com, craigslist, etc.

Jawsette- I like the idea of tax deals, where would I find those properties?

Thanks again everyone, the more suggestions the better!!!


Real Estate Coach


You should consider doing some coaching with a Real Estate specific coaching company. There are a lot out there and they really can give you both advice and education. The only thing is don't spend all of the money on the education part.

Good luck!


Real Estate Investor · ten mile, Tennessee


Jawsette- I like the idea of tax deals, where would I find those properties?


The best place to start is the county (or parrish in LA) courthouse. Talk first to the clerk where you would pay your property taxes. Find out from her where things go to (after a certain period of time) if the taxes remain unpaid. Then find out from that office who the county tax attorney is.

Schedule a brief session with the county tax attorney to find out what are the state tax statutes concerning the sale of delinquent tax properties.

Then study the actual tax codes. With the help of an RE attorney if necessary so that you understand them. There are many pitfalls to watch out for in a tax sale and it will help you to somewhat understand the process before you attend an auction.

To attend an auction return to the county office concerned with the collection of delinquent taxes and find out when the next sale is scheduled for. DO NOT BUY at this sale but just observe what happens and how it happens.
You will be somewhat ready now for the next tax sale because you have a full year to look at what sold for what amount and why. And what did not sell and why.
About a month before the next sale you should be able to get a list of properties that will be in the sale from that clerk from which you can do your research (DO DUE DILIGENCE) as to their potential profitability and know the risks (as much as possible) for each property in the aution as well as the most that you would spend for said property.

You are now ready to take a chance at being the highest bidder.

Good luck, if you choose that route. I think NO and southern LA should be an area that has several opportunities and fewer that the normal investors who will attend the sales due to the perception of how bad these properties are.

If you do your due diligence properly you should be able to find those good properties that do exist and will have less competition to get them because of the perception of the area.

Real Estate Investor · Milwaukee, Wisconsin


Stay away from "coaches and gurus." They will make shrink your 50k until "there is not enough money to create meaningful profits for two people."


Accountant · Mandeville, Louisiana


Thanks Jeff I'm very reserved about working with other people the early in the game I don't know enough yet.

Jawsette- I found a great website, New Orleans actually sells does their tax sales online http://neworleans.onlinetaxsale.com/
there are a lot of great properties in good locations but i'm still skeptical, too good to be true??? Louisiana's redemption period is 3 years, 5% penalty and 1% a month redemption fees, it also says that this isn't an auction you bid you buy type of deal.

is anyone else familiar with an online tax sale...i'll sign up and see how the one in December goes but i'm not sure if I should buy, I could be conservative and just buy a few for 10K and see how it goes...


Real Estate Investor · Bergen County, New Jersey


Have you joined a local REIA group? You can find other investors who are successful and become friends with them. Then you can ask them questions, get help from them and best of all it'll be FREE except for the initial membership cost.

Ned Carey who's on BP does tax sale believe and he's got a blog Baltimore real estate investing, so you may want to search him out.


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