NEW! BP Podcast 022: BP Podcast 022 - Building a Marketing Machine, Spec Houses, Flipping & Wholesaling with Tucker Merrihew

Hide this

People to Know

 

From the BiggerPockets Blog

 BiggerPockets Blog »

Jump to Forum View All

Click a category below to view different forum categories.

BiggerPockets

General Info

BiggerPockets Q&A, Site Questions, & Announcements

1162 topics, 10900 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:17PM

BiggerPockets Exclusive PRO Area

31 topics, 231 posts — Last Post 06/15/13, 07:02AM

New Member Introductions

6475 topics, 43052 posts — Last Post 06/20/13, 12:38AM

Real Estate Success Stories

220 topics, 3027 posts — Last Post 06/18/13, 10:19PM

BiggerPockets Real Estate Investing Summit

95 topics, 1723 posts — Last Post 05/16/13, 06:39PM

General Real Estate

General Real Estate

Buying & Selling Real Estate

2965 topics, 24219 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 07:41PM

Renters

334 topics, 2866 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:49PM

Get Foreclosure Help - Help Stop Foreclosure Forum

268 topics, 2115 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 09:25AM

Home Owner Association (HOA) Issues & Problems Forum

161 topics, 1082 posts — Last Post 06/17/13, 07:25PM

Do it Yourself

410 topics, 3748 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 04:05PM

Reviews & Feedback

Real Estate Deal Analysis and Advice

2222 topics, 17251 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:59PM

Real Estate Guru, Book & Course Reviews and Discussions

882 topics, 8673 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 09:49PM

Ask About A Real Estate Company

548 topics, 5610 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 06:46PM

Real Estate Investing

Real Estate Strategies

Wholesaling

3898 topics, 31036 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:18PM

Rehabbing and House Flipping

2450 topics, 22743 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:50PM

Real Estate Development & New Home Construction

405 topics, 2943 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 08:20AM

Innovative Strategies

526 topics, 4235 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:45AM

Tax Liens, Notes, Paper, & Cash Flows Discussion

599 topics, 4412 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:33PM

Rent to Own a.k.a. Lease Purchase, Lease Options

488 topics, 3390 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:09AM

1031 Exchanges

89 topics, 616 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 09:11AM

Foreclosure Investing

General Foreclosure & Pre-Foreclosure Forums

1383 topics, 9063 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:19AM

HUD, VA, and Tax Sales

278 topics, 1809 posts — Last Post 06/12/13, 09:56AM

REOs

1066 topics, 9269 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:12PM

Short Sales

1395 topics, 11908 posts — Last Post 06/17/13, 10:49AM

Landlord & Tenant Forums

Landlord & Rental Property Questions

4929 topics, 46345 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:05PM

Mobile Homes & Mobile Home Park Investing

496 topics, 3901 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:22PM

Investor Basics

Starting Out

5504 topics, 42741 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 09:14PM

Investor Psychology

345 topics, 5044 posts — Last Post 06/18/13, 07:44AM

General Real Estate Investing

3622 topics, 28025 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:22PM

Real Estate Investor Marketing

1203 topics, 9740 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 06:18PM

Commercial Real Estate

Commercial Real Estate Investing Forum

1158 topics, 7289 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:46PM

Multi-Family and Apartment Investing

583 topics, 4987 posts — Last Post 06/20/13, 12:35AM

The Business of Real Estate

Real Estate Technology and the Internet

Real Estate Technology, Social Media & Blogging

475 topics, 3898 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 02:34PM

Business Basics

Goals, Business Plans & Entities

575 topics, 5363 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 07:32AM

Real Estate Finance & Legal

Financial, Tax, and Legal

Tax, Legal Issues, Contracts, Self-Directed IRA

2027 topics, 14348 posts — Last Post 06/20/13, 12:10AM

Credit & Credit Repair

225 topics, 1839 posts — Last Post 06/18/13, 07:43PM

Property Insurance

209 topics, 1339 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 07:24AM

Bankruptcy

25 topics, 138 posts — Last Post 03/22/13, 08:22PM

Loans, Mortgages, Credit Lines

Private & Conventional Lending Discussion

1927 topics, 12999 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 09:49PM

Creative Real Estate Financing

859 topics, 6047 posts — Last Post 06/16/13, 02:22PM

Real Estate Professionals

Real Estate Professionals

Real Estate Agents

813 topics, 5149 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:30PM

Bankers, Lenders, and Mortgage Brokers

376 topics, 1515 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 08:34PM

Contractors

160 topics, 884 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:11AM

Local Real Estate

Local Real Estate

Local Real Estate Networking & Recommendations

984 topics, 5628 posts — Last Post 06/20/13, 12:13AM

Americans & International Real Estate

149 topics, 540 posts — Last Post 05/17/13, 03:21PM

Foreigners Buying in the USA

47 topics, 296 posts — Last Post 06/02/13, 01:20PM

Canadian Real Estate

33 topics, 155 posts — Last Post 04/28/13, 07:59AM

Marketplace

Real Estate Marketplace

Real Estate Marketplace

11733 topics, 45068 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 10:06PM

Off-Topic

Off Topic

Off-Topic

2594 topics, 30480 posts — Last Post 06/18/13, 09:35PM

Housing News & Real Estate Market

772 topics, 7265 posts — Last Post 06/19/13, 11:45PM

BiggerPockets Resources

Forums » New Member Introductions » Bought My First Rental Property...

Bought My First Rental Property...

16 posts by 10 users

Signup

Architect · Houston, Texas


Hello everybody, My name is Jose and I am new to this site. I live in Houston, Texas and have decided to diversify my investments into real estate. A littlebit about myself. I am 32 yrs old, married and have two kids. I am architect who has over 7 years experience in the high end residential and commercial. I have parted from Architecture for the time being and with my current work, I have some time to look into real estate. I am fluent in spanish, both oral and written, which give me a good negotiating advantage with the subcontractors in my state. I have always been intererested in real estate and finally decided to jump in. I just received word that the bank accepted my offer for an older home. I am excited but nervouse at the same time. I have never closed on a home before and I wanted to ask what are the things that I need to look out for before I sign? I asked my real estate agent if we were going to have an final inspection before I sign and he said yes. I guess I am a little nervouse of something that may be wrong on the house that I don't already know. Is there anything else you guys recommend that I need to look out for?

Thank You!

Jose


Residential Landlord · Lima, Ohio


Welcome to BP Jose. Congratulations and good Luck with your first investment! Stay active here. You will find answers to practically anything you need on BP.

Small_finished_ad_8Ben Leybovich, JustAskBenWhy.com
E-Mail: ben@justaskbenwhy.com
Telephone: 1.888.508.9643
Website: http://www.JustAskBenWhy.com
Ben Leybovich, Source Investments, LLC http://www.JustAskBenWhy.com


Real Estate Investor · Montesano, Washington


Hello @Jose Garza - welcome to BP! Congrats on getting your first rental soon!

As for your question - I think it's normal to be a little nervous. Did you get a full inspection on the home? And what's the game plan with it? Flip, rent?

Definitely stay close to BP as you move forward. Anytime you run into somethign (and you will!) ask it one the forums. It not only helps you, but helps countless other future Googlers who have the same question

Small_bp-squareBrandon Turner, BiggerPockets
E-Mail: brandon@biggerpockets.com
Website: http://www.BiggerPockets.com
Community Manager & Senior Editor - BiggerPockets.com Follow me on Twitter! @BrandonAtBP


Real Estate Investor · Brentwood, California


Jose, welcome. How old is the home? Are you financing the purchase in the accepted offer? Do you know what inspections you will have? Did you put earnest money into escrow?


· Denver, Colorado


Congrats! I was super nervous my first time.

First of all, source and hire your own building inspector--don't have your agent recommend one. And be prepared to walk away from the deal. For your first deal, there is no way to avoid the emotion roller coaster ride you will be on, and your agent and loan officer know it better than you, and will use this to close you--regardless if whether this is a good investment or not.

In Adams County, Colorado, bentonite soils can cause massive foundation issues, and foundation issues are expensive/impossible to fix (especially on bad soil)

After that, I would look closely at electrical. Especially since it is an older home. No grounds, crappy breaker box, no gfci's, aluminum wire, cracked old wire are all possible problems. And likely it will have way too few circuits and outlets for modern usage. If you rehab it up to code, you likely will need new service, new breaker box and 2x to 3x the number of circuits. For example, I bough a house that had one circuit serving the entire kitchen (dishwasher, outlets, garbage disposal, fridge, microwave) when it really needed about 5 circuits.

Things like asbestos, mold and meth damage are 'walk away' items.

After that, items like furnace, water heater and plumbing fixtures.

Oh, hire $99 rooter to come and scope the sewer line as well. That could be a $10k fix if it needs replaced.

Another good exercise to 'practice' walking away from the deal emotionally. Play it out in your mind as you go through your day. If you can't stand the idea of walking away from this house because you are emotionally attached--this is a danger sign. Keep practicing until you can be less emotional about it.

Then, start quantifying your 'walk away' point.

How much are you budgeting for renovations / remodel? Add 33% to whatever number you come up with and that is what your real budget should be. How much over your renovation budget will trigger your walk-away decision?

In fact, you could use this as a trial-run:go through all the motions and then walk away over something in the inspection. Do this for the same reason there are pre-season games in football. Analyze your agent and more importantly, yourself, during this time to learn how you act and react.


Architect · Houston, Texas


Hello Brandon, thanks for the response. The real estate agent told me we were going to have a full inspection before we close to make sure there are no hidden costs. I know it needs work but I got it cheap enough where I can invest 10-12k. I offered 29K and its appraised at 54k. Its 1360 sq. ft. and the rental properties are going for $850/month. The major issued are: It needs leveling (block and beam) It looks like it pretty easy to level, and the beams underneath look pretty good, no termite damage. It need a A/C-Heating system, as the old tenants removed the central ac. Then, Carpet, retexture walls, paint and repaint cabinets. I want to keep it long term and rent it, so I want to make the necessary expenses to make it rentable. The architect in me wants to make it look good but I need to think of it as a rental property. I hope It goes well...


Architect · Houston, Texas


@ Michael- The home was built in 1960 and is a block and beam. It definitely needs to be leveled. I am borrowing from a relative at 4% interest, so I will be paying as cash. I will call the realtor tomorrow find out what inspections we are doing. He mentioned over the phone today that we were going to go line by line to make sure there are no hidden costs on fixing it up.


Real Estate Investor · Montesano, Washington


Hey @Jose Garza looks like a great deal. I have a few houses that need leveling. Doesn't usually appear that tough - but I know contractors vary quite a bit so get several bids if you are hiring it out.

and 4% money! That's awesome! Keep in touch on this project!

Small_bp-squareBrandon Turner, BiggerPockets
E-Mail: brandon@biggerpockets.com
Website: http://www.BiggerPockets.com
Community Manager & Senior Editor - BiggerPockets.com Follow me on Twitter! @BrandonAtBP


Real Estate Investor · Venice Beach, California


Great reply @Erik Kubec!

If you ever get too nervous about the repair work or any of that, I have access to a lot of turnkeys in Houston where everything is already done for you and tenants are even placed.

I do know another guy out there who does a lot of rehabbing himself to hold his properties that I could connect you with as well. He recently moved to Houston from Mexico and is bilingual as well.

Small_hipsterinvestment_logo_black300dpiAli Boone, Hipster Investments
E-Mail: ali@hipsterinvestments.com
Website: http://www.hipsterinvestments.com
Real Estate Investor, Pilot, Wannabe Go-Go Dancer.


Real Estate Investor · Brentwood, California


@Jose Garza with the financing you have it sounds like a winner!!!! Good Job.


SFR Investor · Conroe, Texas


Jose, you should have 10 days from the time the contract was executed to back out of the deal based on how inspections go. I would have a contractor walk through it with you with the inspection report in hand to get a good repair estimate. Then add 20% to the estimate for surprises. If the numbers still work great, if not you can back out and should be able to get your earnest money back, depending on the contract (this is pretty standard on TX, check with your agent). Most of all, good luck! Sounds like you've got a pretty good deal. Hard to beat those finance terms!


Note Investor · Conroe, Texas


Hey there Jose, nice to meet you here on BP, and nice to see another Houstonian here too. I would so wholeheartedly agree with Eric Kubec about practice walking away, even it you leave a little money behind having some people or service on the property for your due diligence. Better a few hundred or thousand and lessons learned that will never be forgotten nor repeated, than to have something that is a nightmare that won't ever be forgotten either, plus meeting other like minded folks that would appreciate knowing you are serious about "the numbers have to work" .......reading about your background is what prompts me to say practice walking away from the deal. The contractor I work with here in Houston has plenty of horror stories of perfectionist engineers and architects wanting to do the deals to perfection, which kills the numbers, and the neighborhood didn't appreciate the high end upgrades, only the investor did. I have 2 solid deals with him now after walking away from about 40 others that would have sunk me before I even started. Hope this helps! ttyl


Architect · Houston, Texas


Thanks to everyone for the comments and advise! The expertise from this site is incredible. I really hope I can be successful in this business, as I get more and more educated in it. I do plan on walking away if the numbers don't add up, but so far its look good. It's decent rentable property for the price Im getting it for. Its cheaper than some car notes!


Residential Real Estate Agent · Houston, Texas


@Jose Garza Hey Jose, welcome to BP! Great to see another Houstonian on the site!

I'll shoot you a PM re: your first property. I'd like to run some numbers for you to make sure you're actually getting a good deal on the property. Also, I'm sure I can help with contractor referrals to get it ready for lease if you move forward with the purchase.

Small_nwlogoLyall Storandt, New Western Acquisitions
E-Mail: lyall.storandt@newwestern.com
Telephone: 405-361-1341
Website: http://www.newwestern.com/agent/LyallStorandt/
YouTube: http://youtu.be/7r-BC8o2fw0


Accountant · Garden Grove, California


I bought two more homes in Texas last year, and never saw either one of them. As a matter of fact, I have not seen 75% of my Real Estate portfolio. And just as other's have already said, "GET A HOME INSPECTION." It will be the BEST $250-$300 you spend on any investment. Since you are financing, you will get an appraisal. I paid cash, and I got an appraisal anyway. I also bought a house in Memphis, TN last year, same thing, Home Inspection and Appraisal.

A little extra advise, don't fall into the trap of a "hobby" Real Estate Investor. What is a "hobby" investor? It is one who drives by his/her rental more than once a month under the guise of "I am just keeping an eye on my investment." Don't become friends with the tenants. Don't drive your family and friends by telling them, "I own that property," you are not a Tour Guide.

And one of the best things to do, IF you are going to self manage, get to know a few of the homeowner neighbors. They have a vested interest in the quality of the neighborhood and let them know to call you if there is a problem with your tenant.

Congratulations on your first investment, may you get many more!


Architect · Houston, Texas


Once again thank you all for your advise! Just as an update on my first purchase, I signed the agreement yesterday and I will give the deposit tomorrow. I plan on hiring an inspector to do a thorough inspection. A couple of things that I have to do are hire an electrician to pull a permit and connect the power because the meter was removed. Also, the gas meter was removed/ diconnected in 2007 for some reason and I have to hire a plumber to pull a permit aswell to connect. I am not allowed to connect the water but can do a pressure test. After I connect both, then I will hire an inspector. This home was a foreclosure so I guess that's why it has all these issues. I hope my cost to do this is but too expensive!




Sign up