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Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39467220/ns/business-real_estate/

anyone hear about this?? i hadn't until today. i put an offer on a REO and the agent took it off the market shortly after. when i asked why, this article was emailed to me as a response.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


The gist of that article is the reason I commented as I did in this other thread:
http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/16/topics/55779-problems-at-final-walkthrough-


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


so i guess some people have heard about this.....north carolina wasn't one of the states listed at the bottom of the article though..strange


Real Estate Investor · Cornelius, North Carolina


The North Carolina attorney general has asked 14 lenders to suspend foreclosures in the state until they can show their process complies with the law. It's just political posturing right before the big mid term elections.


Rehabber · Fort Myers, Naples, Florida


An REO I submitted an offer on yesterday was withdrawn today.

I also noticed a number of other properties I was interested in this week get withdrawn.

I only suspect it is because of this.


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


thanks for the insight brian..i can see suspending foreclosures while homeowners are still living there if the paperwork was rushed or not properly documented...however, do you think this includes taking REO's that have already been foreclosed and are on the MLS back off the market?


Real Estate Investor · Cornelius, North Carolina


It may be that the banks are taking the REOs off the MLS temporarily, in order to make sure the foreclosure documents were processed properly. Hopefully, it will not take very long to inspect the documents, but I guess that would depend on how many people they have to do the reviews.


Landlord · Seattle, Washington


This could easily spread to other states and banks. There was a recent lawsuit that I read about that may have helped prompt this as well as political reason.

The article I read talked about a bank exec that was just doing very cursory reviews and signing foreclosure papers. As it turns out there were a number of problems with the paperwork.


Real Estate Investor · Cornelius, North Carolina


You are correct, Charles. It was GMAC Mortgage that first discovered irregularities with foreclosure paperwork, and decided to suspend foreclosures temporarily. Wells Fargo has stated that their foreclosure process is fine, and they will not suspend foreclosing.


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


Originally posted by Brian Farr
... It was GMAC Mortgage that first discovered irregularities with foreclosure paperwork, and decided to suspend foreclosures temporarily. ...


GMAC "discovered" this while a deposition for discovery was being performed by a defendant's attorney in defense of a foreclosure lawsuit - so don't give GMAC any credit for "discovering" this, give the defendant's attorney that credit.

The other banks saw this $#!+ hitting the fan, and quickly jumped into checking on their own affidavits.


Real Estate Investor · Cornelius, North Carolina


Thank you, Steve. I stand corrected!


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


brian, are you seeing any more of this in our area?? so far, i've put out a couple offers this week, and this was the only REO that vanished off the mls...btw, it was a screaming deal so i hope it pops back up soon


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Originally posted by Bryan Alenky
brian, are you seeing any more of this in our area?? so far, i've put out a couple offers this week, and this was the only REO that vanished off the mls...btw, it was a screaming deal so i hope it pops back up soon
Go DIRECTLY to the lsit agent whp had it and ask him/her to contact you the second they get it back (if they do). Have an offer ready and in his/her hand with your POF. Give the list agent both sides of the comission and you will have a better chance once they get it back. (if they do)

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Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


will, that's great advice....except the agent part...lol i already list my rehabs with a flat fee service, so i've shut my preferred agent out of the sell side.....but yes, in this case, you're prob right that it's best to give the listing agent both sides to get the deal...thanks for the idea


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Originally posted by Bryan Alenky
will, that's great advice....except the agent part...lol i already list my rehabs with a flat fee service, so i've shut my preferred agent out of the sell side.....but yes, in this case, you're prob right that it's best to give the listing agent both sides to get the deal...thanks for the idea
My statement was only intended for the acquisition side, not the re-sell side. I too have used flat rate listing on the re-sale, however, I have found positives for using my agent on the backend, one of which is my way to repay him for all the "Free" work he does in research on properties I may or may not get. The others are savings of time, peace of mind with representation, a full team to assist with the BS crap you must deal with on buyer's agents and their buyers, the buyer's lenders (wheu, don't even get me started on lenders!)
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Balance of this post bleeped out for profanity :mrgreen:

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


ya i understood what you said...maybe i wasn't clear...what i was saying is that i alraedy shut my agent ouf of the sell commission by using the flat fee...i'd hate for him to lose out on the buy commission as well...i've used this tactic before going direclty to the listing agent and he didn't seem thrilled...probably bc i drive him crazy looking at houses and sending me comps!! then again, agents are so territorial!!!


Real Estate Investor · Bristol County, Massachusetts


Bank of America supended foreclosures in all 50 states last week:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-foreclosures-20101009,0,6804241.story?track=rss

What is the status of properties currently listed on the MLS as a foreclosure? Should investors make an offer on these or does it depend on the bank holding the mortgage? I've heard so many people saying that they've made offers on REOs only to see the house off the MLS soon afterward.

Here in MA, it does seem that less new listings are showing up daily, but I haven't noticed any REO properties I'm watching get removed from the MLS - yet.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Steph


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


My opinion:
Be friendly with listing agents. They can give you the lockbox combo so you can get in and perform your due diligence. You can even have your offer all written up and in their hands to await the re-listing go ahead. Be ready to beat everybody else to the punch, and you've improved your chances of bagging one.


Residential Real Estate Broker · Los Angeles, California


here's one idea how to prepare...make sure your title company will actually insure it.


Real Estate Lender · Tucson, Arizona


yea, banks like Bof A, GMAC and a few more, are holding off filing FC right now. At least 60 days. We talked to BofA and according to the manager they don't have the man power to foreclose the homeowner because there's too many of them and they don't have enough staff to do that and it would costs them more. I saw an article about this..If i find it i will post it here. there's a few more banks that are doing this.




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