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· Indianapolis, Indiana


I won't go into all of the details of a situation that currently affects my mother, but I'll provide as brief an explanation as possible. Her income is only 800/month as she's on Social Security and she has no other source of retirement income. Her landlord may try to pull something to essentially price her out of the $420/month she's currently paying for rent. Unfortunately, it will be near impossible to find a comparable property with rents that low anywhere else...

I can find fairly decent homes in good neighborhoods here in Indy for approx. $50-$65K. My credit is a bit under 700 right now and I'm told I can't get an investment loan until my score is at least a 720 and even then I'll have to pay points and need AT LEAST 20% down. I won't be able to get my score up to that level for at least a couple of years...(I guess this isn't brief is it?) My mother had hospital visits that she could not afford and as a result, her credit is literally down the tubes...

I wouldn't want to do a hard money loan because I simply would not have a way to come up with the money at the end of a short period. Does anyone know of any ways in which I could purchase a property for my mother? I would be looking at bank owned or HUD properties so I could not approach a purchase with seller financing, contract, etc...

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated... I'll stop playing my violin now... :violin:


Wholesaler · Dallas, Texas


You could by a sub2 or lease option with very little down.


· Indianapolis, Indiana


Thanks Chris but I know that would not be an option with bank owned properties and that's the only way I can get her into a decent neighborhood, without having to do a lot of work, at an affordable price.


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


Are you two willing to move in together? Maybe a homepath home, which allows small down payments.

Can you find an apartment that would rent for what she can afford?

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


· Indianapolis, Indiana


Jon, I love my mother, but I'd probably end up in a mental institution if we lived together. She would need an apartment with a carport or garage because her car leaks in the rain/snow and she can't do stairs. There aren't many apartments that are in decent areas that will rent that low. She's spoiled now because she is currently in a single family home and this is the first time she's ever lived anywhere other than an apartment or mobile home and now she says "I just can't do an apartment." I really need to find her something cheaper than even the 420 because it's over half her income and she can barely make ends meet. I tried looking at retirement communities because her health is poor, but they are incredibly expensive. My mother has a very tough personality to deal with and always finds the negative in everything. She gives up at the drop of a hat, so it's really an uphill battle, one in which I have to do all the legwork because she has already been defeated in her own mind and is content to just sit there and wait until the landlord raises the rent to an amount she can't afford and be forced to be evicted. I'm trying to be proactive while she works in a reactive state which is what got her in to this financial debacle in what should be her golden years in the first place. Sorry for being so wordy.


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


"Golden years" is, IMHO, something of a myth. If you're well prepared financially, healthy and active, I suppose they could be just that. But your mom, like many folks, it totally unprepared. From what you say, she has no savings and live on $800 a month from SSI. She's currently living in a $420 a month place. Realistically, that's out of her price range. If the rents go up, which they inevitably will, that just gets more and more affordable.

Even if you can find a place to buy for her, its likely to cost more than what she's paying now. And she (or you) will be responsible for all taxes, insurance, and maintenance - expense the LL is paying now.

Are you in a position to kick in some money to her?

Can she get a job? I know that may not be pleasant or easy, but she wants a house and a car and she really doesn't have enough income to pay for those things.

Have you investigated her ability to get some sort of subsidized housing? There are often lengthy waiting lists, but such housing is available for seniors. It sounds like she might qualify.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


· Indianapolis, Indiana


If I can get a 50-60K home in good shape, I can help her out with the additional amount needed for the payment & insurance as it wouldn't be much. Already ran the numbers and the payment wouldn't be much more than the 420 she's paying now. And I like the idea of owning the property vs. her risking something else where the rent will inevitably go up. We did look at section 8, but unfortunately the list has been closed since 2006 and they can give no indicator as to when they will open it back up. I'm still looking for alternatives, but was just wondering if there were any ways (that I hadn't already thought of) in which I could get the financing for a bank owned or HUD property...


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


If you buy a property you're going to occupy, you have a number of alternatives. FHA is one of the best, with a 3.5% down payment. Some cities and counties have programs where they will provide the down payment, and almost all sellers, yes including banks selling REOs, will provide assistance for closing costs. I sold a fix and flip back in December where the couple buying it did just this. As far as I can tell, they had none of their own cash into the deal.

USDA has some programs, as does VA. You have to be a vet to use VA financing, or be buying a VA REO property (VA vendee financing.)

But almost all of these programs require you to be an OO. The one exception I'm aware of is Homepath, which does allow NOO purchase with small down payments. Unfortunately, there may not be many houses available under that program.

The trouble with FHA loans and REO properties is that very few REOs will pass the FHA inspections. Even fixed up properties have problems.

I think you should not get wrapped up in "owning" vs. renting. "Owning" to me means free and clear. Owning with a mortgage means you're renting money to "own" the house. So, more flexible in some ways than renting the property from a landlord, but you're still paying a monthly nut out of some very limited income.

Loans under $50K are hard to come by, and often involve higher expenses (percentage-wise) than larger loans. You're probably right that the payment on a $50K loan, even with insurance and taxes, will be less than the $420 she's paying now. But there are also the maintenance expenses to consider. Roofs, furnaces, and sewer lines do fail. I plunked down $800 at home depot a month ago to replace a water heater that was trying to turn the basement into a swimming pool. And you have the down payment and good credit issues.

REOs always need work. At the very least they need cosmetics and a thorough cleaning. They usually need more than that. Even on a $50K house, I'd assume you'll have at least $10K in fixup expenses. What about finding a fix and flip house where the seller is willing to offer some sort of owner financing?

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


· Indianapolis, Indiana


Thanks I'll take a look at the Homepath option. Anyone else that has suggestions for financing options when purchasing a bank owned/HUD property that will be a buy and hold, I'd greatly appreciate it.


Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


In Texas, some older established neighborhoods, especially those deemed historical, tend to have a small single apartment behind the main house. Renting the "apartment out back" would put her in a much nicer neighborhood than she could ever get on that budget. Not sure she has areas like this where she lives, however.


· Indianapolis, Indiana


Carlos, I haven't seen much in the way of in-laws quarters around here, but definitely something to think about if I could find something that wasn't over the garage since she can't do stairs. Thanks!


Rehabber · Torrance, CA


You could also look into an equity share agreement with an investor. The numbers would have to be right and it would probably take some work to find "the right property" but it's definitely not completely out of this world. Good Luck!


· Indianapolis, Indiana


Thanks Angel, I'll have to research an equity share agreement to see how the mechanics of that would work.




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