Hello, is this a realistic 3-5 year goal with SFH rentals? Please share your opinions and strategies. Thank you.
Hello, is this a realistic 3-5 year goal with SFH rentals? Please share your opinions and strategies. Thank you.
How much capital do you have? Everything is realistic if you have a pile of cash. With $20M in cash and an average 5% capitalization rate you can have your $1M/year in cash flow. Do you have that kind of coin laying around to put to work?
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
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The only way to make this money is to work smart and hard, 40 pluse hours a week. Ask your self. Are you Commited to working the hours and a program that will get you there day in and day out ?Also are of integrity and an honest with people person? Will you make eonugh phone calls each day to make 2 offers everyday? Are you willing to help other s do the same.?
If you can say yes to each question, then yes.
Lee, what do you mean others do the same, please be more specific. Bryan, I have a good nest egg of cash, and doing 2-3 flips per month averaging 30k per flip. Any strategic ideas?
It is possible. But as Bryan said there are certain variables. Now you do not need to have $20 million in cash. You could do it with much less starting capital. But also there needs to be the supply in the market your looking at, or would you be going to multiple markets? Also would you be self managing or hiring property management company? ( this would significantly lower your cashflow but if you find a good company would allow you to purely focus on acquisitions )
Greg, what are you seeing as your positive cashflow be sfh?
You can certainly start with less, but you will need about $20M in equity roughly to get that kind of cash flow. At the very least you will need $10M or so if you want to manage rentals in da hood with closer to 10% yields.
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
I help busy people profit from real estate
Greg - if you are netting $90K a month. Then you could easily buy 2 homes per month cash that rent for, say, $800 month. That's $1,600/month additional each month, over 60 months that would be $96,000 gross cash flow per month.
Now of course there are many other factors, like other expenses, vacancies, etc, but your target is really not far off given your current monthly profit.
Of course I do not know your monthly lifestyle either so that may trim things down a bit if you have extreme monthly bills and a high end lifestyle.
I think a smart investor could average 15% cash-on-cash return with single family rentals, but even at that type of return, you still need $6-7M in cash.
Without that kind of cash, I doubt it's possible without getting VERY lucky...and even then, I'm not sure it's possible...
The math is pretty simple here...
J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
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It has been 3.5 years and my company is only 60% of the way. But momentum is picking up and should hit the mark in the next year.
It can be done, with starting capital of less than 1 million but the key is buying right and then leveraging the equity.
Agreed. I think the plan may be to keep flipping and buying rentals. Then leveraging the rentals to buy more rentals meanwhile, flipping to buy more properties. lol..
I know this is all theoretical, but you guys aren't taking into account lots of stuff like taxes he has to pay on his flip gains. He can't just take 100% of the cash and buy rentals.
Also, did you ever consider the feasibility/cost of managing all these rentals?
You'd need a staff and therefore many more rentals to net your number.
Your kind of number is more realistically achieved with apartments and mobile homes than SFH.
He is talking about flipping I am not.
This is what I am finding.
Example. Buy duplex for 40k with 10k rehab. Total cost 50k
Refi after it is tenanted ( appraisal comes back around $100k ) I do all commercial loans so my LTV is 70% which mean roughly I will pull out $67k ( 3k closing costs ) which is an increase of my original cash by 17k.
Greg, one of my long-term goals is to collect $1million/year in rent. After two years of hitting it hard I collect 60,000/month in rent. At the current pace by the end of 2012 I should be collecting 83,333/month.
To NET $1million/year exclusively from rentals will probably take a lot longer.
Matthew, that loan program you have is very sweet. I wish I could find something like that.
He said cash flow, he did not indicate specifically profit.
I looked at it like this:
$1,000,000 / 12 months = 83,334 per month in cash flow.
3 bedroom SFHs in my area are running around 40-50k and rent 1100-1200/m
So, 83,334 / 1150= 73 (rounded up)
73 * 40 = 2,920,000
73 * 50 = 3,650,000
At least between there if you're look at my amounts as far as paying cash.
Why leverage any of the properties and simply not go for f & c ownership given my scenario above? Is it because you like the low cost of funds in today's environment? With regard to taxes, are not most of you that have a large nest egg etc after years and years of success doing your fix/flips within a retirement account? I know my excuse, but why do I not see this being done very often?