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Real Estate Investor · Valencia, California


What is the best approach to buying a primary residence while doing rehab deals?...

I'm just starting out and would like to know if there might be some major disadvantages to one approach vs. another.

Initially I was thinking to buy a low end condo in order to minimize expenses and use the additional cash flow toward doing rehab deals.

However now I'm thinking about using my primary purchase as a 6-9 month rehab in order to kill two birds with one stone....

The only drawback might be that I might end up rushing a purchase just to make it work with my time requirements as I have a lease ending in a few months.

Right now I have 30k to work with, but am debt free and should be able to add approx 30k/yr to my working capital.... I figure I could finance the first transaction via FHA, which I already have lined up with very little out of pocket and use the rest to improve the property and continue on to the next deal.

Besides the obvious drawback of actually having to move every 6 months... is there other things I'm not considering?

any advice you have would really be greatly appreciated!


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


If you're willing to do it, living in a place and moving every two years allows you to avoid taxes completely on your gains. It also allows you to buy with owner-occupied financing terms.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Portland, Oregon


You mentioned the danger and that is buying because you need a place and not because it is the right deal for you.

Make finding the best place a priority and you won't get stung. Rent if you have to but you have some time so get to work and look.

If you can handle working and living in the same environment it is financially ideal. Did it myself since this was the only way to pull it off. With owner financing and the time on your hands it is a different ball game than having expenses eat away your profit when time slips away.

Jon mentions trying to go 2 yrs and while this saves on taxes it might not be your business plan. Obtaining new financing once a year on a new purchase works well too.


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Brian Zimmerman

Besides the obvious drawback of actually having to move every 6 months...

If you're planning to get FHA financing, expect that you'll be required to live in the property for 12 months, not 6.

This is an FHA rule.

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
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Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Some good responses so far. I would reiterate that u should be careful not to buy because u need a place to live, rather, be in a position to buy the correct investment. Jon mentioned tax benefits to holding 2 plus years, however, flipping 4 homes in that time would outperform any tax benefits. Keeping your living expenses down is a good start, however, the extended time to rehab and costs of moving may scratch the savings when buying to live end rehab. I personally would find a very inexpensive place to live and use my funds plus borrowed funds to go after rehab opps. This would also eliminate mistakes of buying a residence/flip combo.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Valencia, California


Would I be able to use a hard money lender if I were to use my own cash to get the loan amount to 60% ARV?

For example let's say there is a house selling at 80k with an ARV of 100k, and I put in my 20K. Does the hard money lender care how the equity is created? Would they object to me living in the property as a primary while its being rehabbed? Would the cash reserves that they are looking for change?

I found a property that would work, however it to get it to 60% ARV, it would use most of my cash, my plan would be to use my earned income to finance the repairs with a projected sale of 6-12 months.


Real Estate Investor · Washington, Washington D.C.


I've only used one HML, and their policy was that the property could not be owner-occupied.


Rehabber · lake elsinore, California


Just say NAY!!! Trust me. The first time you spend Holidays without a kitchen, you will NEVER hear the end of it!!!


Wholesaler · San Diego, California


I'm looking into this myself. It certainly favors the young investor since we are more likely to be single and willing to rough it. My issues now are what to do once the year has passed. Rent, sell etc...


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


The buy, live in while rehab and flip while moving up was in the bubble days. Many young and/or single people did that very thing. The benefit then was during the 6 month stay, the home not only appreciated in value due to the rehab (forced appreciation) it also appreciated magically by large numbers and as such, people could move up into homes $100k or more each time here in CA. The ones that stopped in time made out, the ones that didn;t got caught holding their very expensive house that declined by 50% in value and all their hard work over that 2-3 year span vanished into thin air!

Today is different, but I would not personally recommend trying to live in your flip investment. It also drags on the time you hold each flip and in this market, time is your enemy unlike in 2004!

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Wholesaler · San Diego, California


Will,

What are your thoughts on this if you are looking for a way into the market and want to own a property?

I currently rent a 3/2 and have two roomies. To me the option to get an entry into the business, get a deal on a house and then do the same as I am now but having my mortgage being paid seems like a good idea.




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