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Forums » Tax Liens, Notes, Paper, & Cash Flows Discussion » Just saw the John Beck commercial and want to study about the lien tax process

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Real Estate Investor · Glendale, California


Hi folks,

I just saw the john beck show and i want to learn about the lien tax certificate process.
How do you suggest me to start?
Which books should i read?
Is it a simple process or very complicated and tricky?

Thank u all

David12



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Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Don't get John Beck's course it's a waste of time.

And remember investing in Tax Liens is more work than Beck makes it out to be.

Also your chances of getting the property free and clear is small. A lot of times the home owner ends up paying off the taxes before the grace period is up but you can still make money off the interest alone.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Tax lien certificates are a viable and profitable strategy if you know what you are doing. John Beck is just another Guru pitching a bunch of half-truths and falsehoods to sell a product. If it was that easy, he wouldn't tell a soul, and keep all those "free and clear" homes for himself.
In truth, their is fierce competition to bid on them, particularly in the populated cities. Don't even try to get started on the tax sales in Los Angeles - the big boys will run you out before you know what hit you.
Some states are better than others as well.
Texas is my favorite as the interest paid is 25%. If they pay you off, you just made 25% coc return. Not bad. If they do not, you take the property. If there is enough equity in the home, most cases will have the note paid off, but it is true you can get some properties for pennies on the dollar. YOu can also find a needle in a haystack.

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Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


Tax Lien Investing is for experts. Do not try to go into the market with out the knowledge you need. I would look for a servicing company to handle your tax liens. I also reccomend that you have atleast $100k to invest. Remember that your original investment is never the amount that you will invest. A percentage of your tax liens will have to go to foreclosure and then you get into legal costs (if the state uses judicial foreclosure) and other delinquent taxes.


Real Estate Attorney · Birmingham, Alabama


I am going to disagree slightly.

I don't think tax liens are necessarily best left to experts, but you do need to understand what you are getting into.

VAST majority of tax liens do not result in tax deeds. Some do, but to get title free and clear is a little extra work, time and money.

I advise people that tax liens need to be looked at as a savings account that might end up in owning some property at a later time.

That being said, John Beck is basically useless except for piqueing one's interest in tax liens.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


If there was a way to "clap" here I would. :lol:
Great comment John, you nailed it!
It is not only for the experts, but you Must know what you are doing. I also like the savings to possible ownership analogy. It is right on as is the comment about John Beck.

Happy Hunting.

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Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


Remember that there is a difference between a Tax Lien in Texas & A Tax Lien in Ohio. This is why you should always consult A Real Estate Attorney in the area before purchasing.

I deal with multi million dollar national tax lien portfolios and I have seen many problems occur. This is why I say that you should be an experienced investor when purchasing tax liens.

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Inspector · Brooklyn, New York


Yes, you definitely need to do your own research on these tax certificates. In some states I didnt know I had to notify the homeowner that their taxes were sold at an auction and they have a certian time to pay for it because I apply for a deed to their property. This really screwed me over and made me lose some money.
However, in other states they notify the owners themselves andyou dont have to hire a lawyer to get intouch with the owner.
I currently hold a couple of Arizona certificates but Im really getting discouraged with these online tax auctions


· Maryland


Originally posted by Kyle Payne
I also reccomend that you have atleast $100k to invest.


I'll also agree with John Henson. And I don't think that you need $100K. I started by buying a lien for about $3500. After foreclosure and legal fees I was into it for $10K. I sold it as is for $40K.

I wouldn't have$100k to invest in liens today if I hadn't started with that $3.5K

I don't know about John Beck's corse but I do know it is not as easy as they say on TV.


Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


Just remember if you are buying a $3,500 lien the foreclosure costs could be $3K or $4K. At the time of the foreclosure you will also have to pay any other delinquent certificates outstanding. In some cases that amount can be 4 or 5 years worth of property taxes. Do your Due Dilligence before purchasing any Tax Lien. John Beck's course is a waste of time and money.


· West Virginia


There is a lady named JoAnn Musa that has been sending me a lot of free courses on Tax liens. She seems to have some good information and not just selling sizzle.
Does anyone think that around 50k could yeild a really good return? Obviously if you multiply Kyle's success, I think so.
I know a lot of people using their IRAs to invest in tax liens.


· Maryland


Originally posted by mountainjoepa

Does anyone think that around 50k could yeild a really good return?

As I said above, absolutely yes. However "could lead" does not mean "will lead". You need to be smart about what you are doing.


I know a lot of people using their IRAs to invest in tax liens.

That's what I do.

Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


Originally posted by Liz Purcell
In some states I didnt know I had to notify the homeowner that their taxes were sold at an auction and they have a certian time to pay for it because I apply for a deed to their property.

I thought the counties notified them of this. Which states require that you do that? (Providing there isn't a lengthy list of course.)


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