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Real Estate Investor · Winter Haven, Florida


Looking for Chinese Drywall properties deeply discounted Nationwide.


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Is the Chinese Drywall issue just a temporary concern fanned by the media or do these drywalls actually make a home unlivable? I have heard of ridiculously low valuations on homes in Florida with Chinese drywall. How much would it cost to replace drywalls in a typical tract home and how does that compare to the discount one can get while purchasing such a home?


Real Estate Investor · Winter Haven, Florida


It is a concern, the 1st cases are in court now. I believe this is fanned by media and we shall see shortly the outcome. The prices are low enough to do the demo and have significant equity. There are some remediation methods being tested by the EPA that when approved, demo will not be needed. The process is not cheap, but much less than demo and rehab. I am currently looking into all options at this point.


Real Estate Investor · Phoenix, Arizona


Am I correct in my understanding that the problem is limited to hot and humid areas such as Florida? The Chinese drywall does not seem to misbehave in dryer climates, right? So one would need to focus on warm areas to find these deeply discounted deals.


Real Estate Investor · Bergen County, New Jersey


Of what I know, Chinese drywall is a big concern as it doesn't only affect the drywall but it infects the air with the toxic fumes and also erodes copper and other metals in the house. The fumes/particles can also stay with the house even after taking out the infected walls.
If you google it you can find more info here's a little more info from chinesedrywall.com

"The particulates from Chinese drywall
may invade and adhere to other building materials in the home's structure and personal objects within the
home. Translation - cross-contamination is a real concern and should be factored into any remediation
protocol. "


Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


There were several threads on Chinese drywall; the moderators tried to keep it consolidated into one of these below:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/56/topics/33182-chinese-drywall

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/56/topics/34687-warning-chinese-drywall-

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/35829-chinese-dry-wall

If you have questions about that drywall, post in one of those other threads, and leave this thread for the original poster's wish:

Looking for Chinese Drywall properties deeply discounted Nationwide

Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


Nominating Steve for moderator.


Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Well the man has only 435 posts but a massive amount of influence so yeah he gets my vote.


Real Estate Investor · Winter Haven, Florida


Thanks Steve, just looking for the best deals on these properties...Glen.


Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


Glen- are you a martyr? Why on earth would you want to buy a can of worms, with the potential damages unknown.
Where is Jeff T from Cape coral? I attende a reia meeting with a speaker, licensed inspector. This drywall will be an absolute mess. Try driving through developments that have the problem. it is killing all homes in the area.
The gas emitted can enter any porous material, including wood and concrete. It is unknown whether the bandaides being applied will do any good. Removeing the drywall doesn't cut it. All metals may be affected(read truss connectors and floor anchors), woods(read studs) .
This may be a huge destructive concern. It may bankrupt large home builders, insurance companies etc.
There is some testing currently with placing a new gas into the equation that may dissolve the bad gas! I would run the other direction. Most drywall is found in 05-08, but could be earlier and later. It has been found as far away as alaska. Rich


Real Estate Investor · Panama City Beach, Florida


This is for Glen. Try to give him a short answer. My partner and I have 30 (we had 80) condos with Chinese drywall for sale at $10,000 each in Port St. Lucie, Florida. I am not going into the pros and cons of how to fix it. Although, my partner has a very good working solution.
So, Glen please contact Alfred Miller at [PHONE NUMBER REMOVED] or send message to: [EMAIL REMOVED]


Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


Anna- simple question. Will your partner GUARANTEE his solution with his assets at risk if it doesn't work? There is NO proven fix, accepted by any health, building or public assistance entity in the state of FL. The only ones that will make money by being involved with chinese drywall are the attorneys, imo. Rich


Real Estate Investor · Lehigh Acres, Florida


If it can cause that much damage to metals, what can it do to people with long term exposure to this stuff, just walking into a home with chinese drywall, leaves your lungs hurting.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Originally posted by Anna Estes
This is for Glen. Try to give him a short answer. My partner and I have 30 (we had 80) condos with Chinese drywall for sale at $10,000 each in Port St. Lucie, Florida. I am not going into the pros and cons of how to fix it. Although, my partner has a very good working solution.


Rich, What if you strip all the drywall on the property and re-drywall? That must solve the problem. Wouldn't it? I'm not talking about the financial aspect of it that may be too expensive, but from health perspective.

Real Estate Investor · Winter Haven, Florida


WOW, did anyone read my post???
Looking for Chinese drywall properties deeply discounted Nationwide.
Anna I have already spoken with Alfred and we are setting up a time to meet, Thanks!!!


Real Estate Investor · Panama City Beach, Florida


Rich,
I am sending you something to your e-mail address that is under your name. Please look at it.
Sorry don't know how to include it in here for the others to see it.
It is a flyer with an invitation to see a remediated condo at 10440 SW Stephanie Way in Port St. Lucie.


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


I'm not buying there is anything you can do to remediate this problem. Drywall is a solid. Solid chemistry is difficult because the molecules can't interact with each other like they can in a liquid or gas. You can't encapsulate this like you can lead paint because you can't get at the back side. What ever's causing these problems is going to come out the back. The only way to truly get rid of this problem is to rip out ALL the bad drywall and replace anything affected.

Anne, my e-mail is on my profile. You're welcome to send me whatever info you have and I'll have a look. I do have a degree in chemistry. I will post a response here, though, with whatever I see.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Bergen County, New Jersey


Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

Rich, What if you strip all the drywall on the property and re-drywall? That must solve the problem. Wouldn't it? I'm not talking about the financial aspect of it that may be too expensive, but from health perspective.


Eddie
Read my post above, the toxic fumes contaminate the metals and wood of the property so it's not only the drywall that is infected as I understand. You'll have to replace the metals wood etc.. Cross-contamination is a big issue as I see it and it is a pretty new problem so no one knows the long-term affects.

Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


Originally posted by Robert Mack
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

Rich, What if you strip all the drywall on the property and re-drywall? That must solve the problem. Wouldn't it? I'm not talking about the financial aspect of it that may be too expensive, but from health perspective.


Eddie
Read my post above, the toxic fumes contaminate the metals and wood of the property so it's not only the drywall that is infected as I understand. You'll have to replace the metals wood etc.. Cross-contamination is a big issue as I see it and it is a pretty new problem so no one knows the long-term affects.


It looks like we are heading toward a demolition derby ... Too bad we cannot clash two properties into each other... That would have been fun... :rock:

Real Estate Investor · sioux falls, South Dakota


I do believe the demolition might be the answer. Lennair Homes is trying to mediate the problem. They'll come in and remove and replace all the drywall. Homeownner signs a release of future liability.
You should see Stoneybrook in Gateway area of Ft. Myers, and the % of homes being re-done. It will get worse before it gets better. Rich.

p.s. It hurts to buy a home in an area of chinese drywall even if yours doesn't have it. We bought a home old enuff, in an area with no verified chinese drywall to be safe.


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