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Hmmm, it's not THIS Sean Whalen, is it?

http://buyholdrent.com/

Formerly called RichFromRentals.com based out of Cleveland, Ohio.

I personally met the Cleveland "Sean" once over a year ago. He never mentioned anything about prize-fighting and didn't come off as a "Guru", just a hard-working dude making his living by renting out properties in Ohio.

You can look at the photos on the web sites and see if they're the same person, a skill I'm terrible at. But my guess is we're talking two different bubba's.

Hi Tom,

Sean Whalen here.

I saw your post and wanted to respond to you directly. Not to sound to cheesy but my favorite quote is "Dream like you will live forever, live like you will die tomorrow". I tell you that so you know why the fighting thing is not on the top of my priority list right now. It happened to be on my bucket list (I have a lot of fun stuff on my bucket list), and I was only going to take one fight to say I had done it.. Well with my personality, when I really like something I tent to get into it big time! 2 wins, and 2 losses later I can honestly say that it was a riot to fight, and I'm really glad I did it! It's one hell of a way to get into shape, plus it's a fantastic sport! Cant say that I wont ever do it again, but until there are no more real estate deals to do, I'm 1,000% focused on my business and my future so fighting will have to wait!

That being said, let me also make one thing crystal clear to you, I AM NOT A REAL ESTATE GURU. Let me repeat that, I AM NOT A GURU that has an infomercial to try and convince you to buy something you dont need or cant use. Armando Montelongo and the likes could not be any more different that me. You might say yea whatever Sean, but let me share something with you. If you went to my site right now, you could literally FOR FREE with NO SIGN UP FEE or ANY OTHER FEE buy a cash flowing investment property. Investment properties no different than if you called your real estate agent and asked him or her to find you some killer deals. Property that WILL PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKET every month... I would be willing to bet you could search the massive internet world and not find a link from ANY GURU that will let you do this without at some point asking you to sign up for a monthly fee or buy some training course for tens of thousands of dollars etc.
I state this simply because I like to let the deals do the talking.

If you are interested in more training on HOW to make money in real estate, I AM NOT YOUR GUY and I can not help you! If however you realize that now is the time to be buying, and you are looking to do so in a very simple turn key way, I CAN DO THAT WITH YOU.
With that clear, let me tell you WHY I do what I do. About 3 years ago I started attending Tax Deed auctions in multiple states. I started picking up a few properties here and few properties there. Friends and associates started seeing what I was doing and they began having me buy property for them while I was at these auctions. I found that there was such a strong demand, that I could attend auctions, buy property, and sell them for a small haircut of a profit, and do it over and over again in a very short period of time. That is what I did a few years back, and that is what I do now. What you get from me and my company Tom is a very simple and direct opportunity. An opportunity to buy a property.

The average American right now is working a 9-5 (or more!) job. They already have all the books and training material on HOW to get rich in real estate, but they are NOT getting rich because they can not do what I do. That simply is travel the country and connect with the right government, bank and institution agencies to buy these Foreclosures, Tax Deeds & REO. I dont say that to be rude, but honestly ask around to your friends and associates. I bet you that more than 90% of the people that have ever bought a real estate education course have NEVER bought property that they were instructed on how to buy.

Over the last 3 years I have built a network of people that work directly with me and only me who can literally buy, rehab and rent an investment property creating a 10-25% ROI, and I can do this in a shorter period of time than it would probably take you just to get on Google and find a good contractor. Again, I dont say that to be rude, I say that because it is a fact.

That is what I do, ad that is what I do well. I with my company Property23 make investing in the deals you read about in the paper and hear about all over the news a reality for EVERYONE, and I do it WITHOUT you having to pay fees, join clubs, or deal with BS.

I could go on and on Tom. Another thing I do well in addition to real estate is talk! I'm a very straight forward and excited person. You can call it "marketing" or whatever you want, but I can honestly say that there has NEVER been a time in my lifetime to invest in such amazing real estate deals, so yes, I AM EXCITED AND I WANT EVERYONE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT!!!

I'm including my direct email and office number below so you can call me and we can talk about fighting, getting punched in the face or twisted up like a pretzel, how to retire in the next few months, why I'm so handsome, how I'm blessed to have such a great wife when I'm such a crazy guy, or anything else that's on your mind!

Hopefully this answers some of your questions about me, my company and what I do.

I look forward to talking with you, and have fun investing!

SEAN WHALEN

Honestly Mitch I could not tell you much about the South Ogden market. As you mention I dont invest much here in Utah because there are far better deals elsewhere. If you would like me to help you locate some folks that might be able to help you I'd be happy to try and connect you with someone.

Nevermind problem solved.

I don't know this company.If I had a company such as this I wouldn't be pitching so hard to sell it.

Just direct people to your site where they can contact third party after third party that bought from you.

Third party endorsements you can talk to are much more powerful than someone blowing hot air.

I could talk or write for 30 minutes but giving 3 references people can call and hear from them directly is MUCH more powerful and credible.

I am not talking about one investor out of ten you sold to that is happy.I am talking having 7,8,9 different buyers you can talk to.

No matter how good you are there will always be a dissatisfied consumer but if half to a majority are not happy it shows a trend of selling bum deals.

Endorsements from non-affiliated parties are key to growing an honest and credible business.

It seems like he's having some financial problems.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/orem/article_cf50fd91-732c-5ec0-bb36-bb2959eb81c3.html?mode=story

Given the article about him, that's a pretty telling statement... :D

I appreciate the comments here in regards to the original question about me.

Dvorah, can you explain to me what a "gang area" is? I hear this over and over from people that have little to no experience investing in real estate. Candidly if a property that pays me on time every month, that is generating me 19% ROI and is in a rental market is considered a "gang area" I'm not quite sure what you find not amazing about that. You mentioned knowing someone who got "royally screwed" by Property 23? I would be happy to speak directly with you and whoever this person is to resolve their concerns. See my personal contact info below.

No need for me to "clear my name". Not sure what I would need to "clear"? Those of you who have never lost on a deal before, those of you who have never had something fail then have to rebuild it again, go right ahead and keep doing your thing. What I love the most about what I do is I can speak from experience, having both made and lost a money. Most people read stories like mine in books, but will never experience themselves what it's like to take and idea and run with it.

Finally, something for you to consider. A guy makes good money and invests in real estate. The real estate market tanks and the guy looses his shorts. Instead of crawling under a rock the guy does what he does best, HUSTLE. The guy bounces back, begins to build again and finds success again. The only thing you as an armchair investor have to trash, the only thing you have to be mad about is the fact that chances are you are someone who's house is underwater, you've lost a job, you lost money when the market bottomed, and now you look at this guy bouncing back and you are frustrated that is not you.

For those that want to know what our people are saying, (real people that have bought from Property23, not "royally screwed mystery people) here is a link you can check out.
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Feel free to contact me any time. My direct line is below.

Happy investing!

Jason,

I think he is trying to sell his program to pay back the 8.5. He seems like a stand up guy with a plan.

Well my sarcasm meter is on and it's off the charts what Jeff said so yes he was being sarcastic or as they say down in the south a smart*ss bumpkin :mrgreen: