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Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Armondo M. is coming to CA and is holding many seminars in many cities here in CA, one of which in my hometown.

I despise RE gurus and will do my best to warn others of their hidden agendas and the "real story" behind their fluff and "pipe dream" sales tactics. As such, I have a particularly bad taste for this guy.

My attorney in San Antonio sued this guy and informed me that Armando was sued by many others for scams and failed RE ventures.

Anyways, for those who are new to RE, DO NOT be fooled by these RE gurus and their marketing and sales tactics. They promise the dream and deliver the nightmare, nothing more. Please warn your friends, family, and contacts to stay clear from this guy and others like him.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Westchester, Illinois


And yet his pretty little face is at the bottom of the page asking us to register....(confused)


Real Estate Investor · Lake Lure, North Carolina


I prefer the "Guru" or mentor that is not interested in selling books and tapes but rather selling you a business and will work with you directly the entire time you are in business. He will go with you on every deal you look at (if you like) and will always be available when you need him. That way he is accountable for your success. I doubt that Armando does any of that.


Real Estate Investor · Chicago, Illinois


When I first got into Real Estate (more specifically wholesaling) I checked out so called guru's like preston ely and larry goins and learned absolutely nothing.

It wasnt until I partnered with an experienced wholesaler in my area that I started to make progress.

I completely agree with you Rob a mentor who is willing to walk you through the steps is the best way to learn


Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


He was holding a seminar here in OK in OKC. It's all upsell garbage. He starts off offering a free seminar then suckers you into another seminar that costs around $1000-$1200 but that is also an upsell to his tour bus crap that he charges $30K.

I couldn't stand him on FTH. Thought he was very arrogant and rude. He at one point treated his wife like crap on TV as well.

I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog much less trust him with REI advice.


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Rob Caldwell
I prefer the "Guru" or mentor that is not interested in selling books and tapes but rather selling you a business and will work with you directly the entire time you are in business. He will go with you on every deal you look at (if you like) and will always be available when you need him. That way he is accountable for your success. I doubt that Armando does any of that.

For the right amount of money or fees, I'm pretty sure any guru will do that...

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
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Banker · Tampa Area, Florida


Originally posted by Mr_Investor
He was holding a seminar here in OK in OKC. It's all upsell garbage. He starts off offering a free seminar then suckers you into another seminar that costs around $1000-$1200 but that is also an upsell to his tour bus crap that he charges $30K.

I couldn't stand him on FTH. Thought he was very arrogant and rude. He at one point treated his wife like crap on TV as well.

I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog much less trust him with REI advice.

so just like the 'rich dad' seminars


Real Estate Investor


He was recently in Milwaukee and his infomercials were on a lot. I found it interesting that all the "testimonials" were from people who hadn't made a cent, all they had done was buy a property and claim it was worth so much more than they paid for it, so they had "made" all this money. Not one that I saw had actually sold anything. Why can't people see this crap as crap?


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


Originally posted by Ryan ODonnell
And yet his pretty little face is at the bottom of the page asking us to register....(confused)

Google ads. Not sponsored or specified by BiggerPockets. That's what keeps the lights on. Or the disks spinning, as the case may be.

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Real Estate Investor · Westchester, Illinois


I know. I wish it didn't have to be that way. For any deal I do as a result of BP activity in my book warrants a donation! I think that would only prove how self sustaining of a community BP can be.


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


I cant recall any Guru ever actually promising success or wealth. They are no different then anyone else. Most people are just upset that he is making a killing selling people his method of making money. I have never purchased anything from him but you have to give it to these Guru guys. They are selling hope to people who are looking for something. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at kiyosaki or Trump or Nuevo Reisch. They are all charging ultra expensive products and courses. I have sold 38 homes so far this year, maybe I should offer a course of product to sell.

Small_buymemphisnow_stacksCurt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
E-Mail: crtdavis@gmail.com
Telephone: 901-881-0552
Website: http://www.buymemphisnow.com
Full Service Real Estate Investing in Memphis TN


Real Estate Investor · Lake Lure, North Carolina


Originally posted by Curt Davis
I cant recall any Guru ever actually promising success or wealth. They are no different then anyone else. Most people are just upset that he is making a killing selling people his method of making money. I have never purchased anything from him but you have to give it to these Guru guys. They are selling hope to people who are looking for something. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at kiyosaki or Trump or Nuevo Reisch. They are all charging ultra expensive products and courses. I have sold 38 homes so far this year, maybe I should offer a course of product to sell.

I know a guy that has spent over $80K with the Kiyosaki group and has never bought a house. Unbelievable!


Real Estate Investor · Lake Lure, North Carolina


Originally posted by Curt Davis
I cant recall any Guru ever actually promising success or wealth. They are no different then anyone else. Most people are just upset that he is making a killing selling people his method of making money. I have never purchased anything from him but you have to give it to these Guru guys. They are selling hope to people who are looking for something. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at kiyosaki or Trump or Nuevo Reisch. They are all charging ultra expensive products and courses. I have sold 38 homes so far this year, maybe I should offer a course of product to sell.

I know a guy that has spent over $80K with the Kiyosaki group and has never bought a house. Unbelievable!


Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Its more then unbelievable!!! That person could have bought 2 homes cash and be further along and actually making money.

Small_buymemphisnow_stacksCurt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
E-Mail: crtdavis@gmail.com
Telephone: 901-881-0552
Website: http://www.buymemphisnow.com
Full Service Real Estate Investing in Memphis TN


Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Originally posted by Curt Davis
If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at kiyosaki or Trump or Nuevo Reisch. They are all charging ultra expensive products and courses

Um Curt that's exactly what Armando is doing. Read my post above on what he does.


Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, California


Thanks for the warning, Will.

I've never even heard of this guy. Though I am out of the guru loop. Aside from taking a few DRE licensed courses, I've been mostly using this site for RE education. And for my easy, passive, airchair-investing, create-wealth-while-I-watch-TV, path to extreme riches.

OK the last sentence is a joke. However, on a serious note, I wonder if this thread deserves an SEO friendly title - for all the people smart enough to Google this guy.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Red flag #1: Guru holding a free seminar (it really is not free, it is an up sell to costly programs, boot camps, and personal training sessions to the tune of many thousands of dollars.
Red Flag #2: The advertisement video shows a clip of attendees dancing and cheering and all excited in the audience = Hype and more Hype which is all fluff and BS.
Red Flag #3: So-called top RE flip investor in the country - then why not keep flipping rather than market courses and seminars?
Red Flag #4 - Guru's name is Armando Montelongo - check his real record of law suits and failed business ventures.
Red Flag #5 - He is a guru, need we say more.

Note to all newbies, seminar junkies, or anyone thinking of attending this or any similar scam to get your money - Armando, or any other guru for that matter, cannot possibly know the intricacies of every market across the country and giving generalized information on "how to do anything" is just that, general info you can get for free. It is the specifics of each market and each strategy that are so crucial to know. Do not be fooled by these people, I can PROMISE you one thing, THEY DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
E-Mail: info@barnardenterprises.com
Website: http://www.barnardenterprises.com
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Wholesaler · Memphis, Tennessee


Everyone here seems to be bagging on Armando, I dont know him personally or have ever purchased anything by him but what do you think about Than Merrill and the Fortune Builders guys who charge $20,000 for their Mastery Coaching program? That is far more then Armando who charges people $3,500 to go to his bus tour 3 day course.

Small_buymemphisnow_stacksCurt Davis, buyMemphisnow.com
E-Mail: crtdavis@gmail.com
Telephone: 901-881-0552
Website: http://www.buymemphisnow.com
Full Service Real Estate Investing in Memphis TN


Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Where did you get $3500 Curt? He charges $30K for his bus tour according to everyone who attended his paid seminar.


SFR Investor · Orange County, California


Originally posted by Rob Caldwell
I know a guy that has spent over $80K with the Kiyosaki group and has never bought a house. Unbelievable!

Don't rush him... he's still learning. :wink:

I've said this before - I believe many would-be investors USE these courses, boot-camps, and seminars as EXCUSES for not taking any action. It disguises their fear.

For any new investors contemplating dropping a few thousand for real estate "education", allow me to offer this alternative:

1. Read Biggerpockets. Cost = FREE

2. Check out books on real estate from your library. Cost = FREE

3. Attend local rest estate investor meetings and talk to the other ACTIVE INVESTORS in the group, not the keynote speaker/salesman. Cost = $20-25 per meeting or a couple hundred dollars for annual membership.

4. Put that $3,000, $10,000, $25,000 or whatever you were planning to spend on "training" for a REAL piece of REAL estate. You'll learn much more in the first 3 months of owning your own property than any of these "guru" jokers will teach you in years. And you'll still have a valuable asset at the end instead of a box full of worthless CD's, books, and tapes that you can't even get $10 for on eBay.




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