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Forums » Rent to Own a.k.a. Lease Purchase, Lease Options » Rent to Own-Strategy in Process -Suggestions?

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Real Estate Investor · Hoquiam, Washington


Hey ya'll. I've been trying to sell a home using a Realtor for a few months now, with no success, and I've got another one 90% fixed up and ready to go. So I am going to go ahead and do (my first) Rent-to-Own on them. I figured I would write my ideas here on what I'm planning on doing, then leaving the floor open to you guys who have done it before. Please let me know any suggestions, things you would change, or things you like. Thanks!

First, I am in process of creating a website. I can build the basic site, which doesn't need to be fancy, but should get the job done. I'll post both on this site. (www.ghrent2own.com) and list the specs - rental price, purchase price, how a "rent to own" works, and lots of pictures. I will also list my phone number (see next paragraph).

Next, I figure I will advertise in the newspaper and on a sign in the front yard. Both these will give both my phone number (which goes to a line I have dedicated only for leaving messages) and the website.

As for the rent to own program itself, I was thinking of doing a two year lease and separate 2 year option. I will charge market rent - but the highest market rent I can justify. ($690-$790). The same thing applies for the purchase price. I will charge 1 month's rent for an option fee and 1 months rent for security deposit.

I will not offer a "rent credit" (to avoid legal issues later) but rather offer to match any amount (up to $200 per month) that the tenant/buyer pays extra toward savings. So if rent is $690, and they pay $890, they will actually have $400 earned toward a down payment.

If at the end of the period they decide not to buy or cannot, but do not break the lease or destroy the property, I will then allow them to keep their portion of the money they paid extra (if they paid $200 per month for 1 year, they will get their $2,400 back, but they would not get the money I offered to match or the option fee). So the extra money they pay works almost like a security deposit. I need to check the legality of this process, but I feel it is the most fair thing I can do. It gives me security knowing they aren't gonna leave the house with cement poured down the drains but it also doesn't put the tenant in a worse position than when they moved in. pretty Win-Win I think.

I guess that is the plan. I really do want the tenant to buy the property (I don't just want to be a landlord, and I'm working with Hard Money Lenders and they want their money back eventually) and I think this is the best way I can think of doing that. Thanks for reading through this long post, but I hope you all might have some good suggestions. Thanks!

Brandon


Real Estate Investor · Rochester Hills, Michigan


Well a website is a nice touch of course but not necessary to do one or two deals - if you're going to do more then sure.

I am not sure why such a low option fee - 1 month rent VS 1-3% seems very low.

With a lease option having a portion of the rent go to the PP that really isn't messy - if they exercise the option then that money comes into play but if they don't exercise the option then - well nothing - they are not building an equitable interest in the property this way - they are ONLY if they complete the transaction - but not until then.

So while I think your idea is creative is really isn't necessary.

Having said that you can run ads both ways or when they call tell one person one way and the second person the second way and keep track of it and see which way gets you more interest. Testing what works in your area is really important.

Placing ads in the paper can be expensive - I would try the net first - Craig's List and see what happens for 7-10 days - then if you're getting nervous run an ad but I haven't run an ad in the newspaper for years - really no reason to.

Understand that having a lease option tenant is being a landlord (vs a land contract) and a large percentage of people never complete the option and just leave leaving you with your hard money loan.

Depending on how patient the HML is and the %age I would be prepared (have plan B) to hold onto these for a while and if they sell on the lease/option then awesome! But having plan B around is a good idea.

Good luck to you sounds like your doing an awesome job thus far!


Real Estate Investor · Holly Springs, North Carolina


Brandon, I like the plan! A couple comments for you and Scott.

First, advertising. I believe the Internet is necessary *and* sufficient. I saw no adverse consequences 4 years ago when we halted all newspaper ads. Scott is right on. Just get an online marketing plan together and execute. Use google analytics, adwords, etc.

I would also find a good mortgage broker to add to your "team." Tenant/Buyers like to know a licensed mortgage professional is there to help. A T/B "win." The broker can quickly assess the T/B capability to buy and where they need help (e.g. credit, down payment, etc.) The broker gets new business ("win") and you are one step closer to closing (you "win" also.)

I like the idea of your matched savings. Make sure you think out and define the "rules" of how the program works. I can put in my 2 cents later if you want.

Finally, regarding the option fee. Per my post at http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/83/topics/32925-lease-options-illegal- you know my thinking. For entry level properties, a low (or very low) option fee translates into more candidates, more applications, more business. I like having multiple showings the first day a property goes on the market. Your stated goal is to move (sell) the property and a low option fee helps facilitate this goal. Scott's comment "a large percentage of people never complete the option" is probably historically correct for investors who use option payments as a revenue source.

I recommend you set a goal for 100% T/B execution and set the plan (you already have), systems, processes, and team in place to make it happen. You should end up with some happy customers!



Bradon,

I would like to stress the importance of talking with a mortgage broker about what type of financing options that your buyer and your home qualify for. Chris already mentioned in an earlier response that the buyer is going to need to repair thier credit. The majority of lease options never become actual sales. Now is even more difficult beucase of the limited financing options that are available to buyers.

Chances are that with a checkered credit past and a small down payment your buyer will be using a Govt mortgage most likely a FHA mortgage. For FHA mortgages a buyer is required to have a 3.5% down payment that can come either from the buyers personal funds or as a gift from a family member or charity.

The down payment CANNOT be seller funded. FHA outlawed seller funded down payemnts in October 2008. Now if the buyer provides you with a down payment at the beginning of the lease option then you can credit that back to them at the time the buyer exercises the purchase option. However make sure you document that deposit. Over document every financial transaction that is made. At the time of sale you will have to document everything.

In your scenario you mention a tenant paying $890 montly payment when thier acutal monthly rent is only $690 and then crediting them $200 towards thier down payment when they exercise purchase option. In order to do this you must have a licensed appraiser do a rental analysis for your home. Basically this will place an average rental rate on similar homes in your area. You are able to credit the buyer back any dollar amount they pay over that monthly rent that the appraiser stated.
The "matching" that you mentioned is a no-no. That is considered a seller funded down payment.

You may want to check if the home you are selling is in a USDA Rural Development eligible area. The minimum credit score requirements are lower and the underwriting tends to be a little less intense (at least in this area of the country)

Hopefully this makes sense. It is getting a little late !!


Real Estate Investor · East Aurora, New York


I haven't had any success using metro newspapers for getting RTO tenants - mostly signs and Craigslist work for me. It will take a long time to get traffic from a website, so I don't think that will be worth the effort unless you plan on using this strategy for a lot of property.


Real Estate Investor · Vicksburg, Michigan


Scott, A very creative idea. All are real good answers and I can't add much. For my two cents worth, I won't accept less than 3% opt. consideration. Why? because FHA wants 3.5% and with accumulated rent credits the downpayment is covered. Herbster


Real Estate Investor · Northeast TN, Tennessee


Brandon,
Interesting and creative! I like how you think. There have been some great comments/suggestions as well.

I have very good results for my RTO's with craigslist ads and signs. Don't stop with just one sign. Put them around in the neighborhood. They work really well near exits from places such as Walmart, pharmacies, churches, etc. I also had really good success with a "pick your neighbor" campaign. I had someone distribute flyers to all of the neighbors giving info on the house and encouraging them to "pick their neighbor."

Scott makes a VERY good point when he says that 1mo seems a bit low for a lease option fee. I think you would end up with more "tenants" than you would "tenant/buyers." If you are going to base your option fee on the monthly rent amount I think you should try to get at least 5-6 months rent as your option fee. (I pretty much hold to 2-4% of sales price right now.) Chris mentions that the lower fee would get you more candidates, and I would agree with that. I think, though, that your candidates would end up being more "tenant" than "tenant/buyer". I can't help but think that setting your monthly rent at no more than market and using one month rent as an option fee is setting yourself up for folks with a "tenant" mindset that will not treat the property "as their own." But that's just me :D

Just my .02, and your mileage may vary!

regards,

Bill


Residential Real Estate Broker · Durham, North Carolina


I agree with previous posters that your option fee is too low. I normally ask for about 2%, but Herb's reasoning for 3% is pretty solid too.

I'd suggest you spend an hour with a real estate lawyer you trust and explain all this to him/her. The State laws on lease-options are rapidly changing, so that might be the best $100 you ever spent.

Also, I always suggest Buy Low, Rent Smart and Sell High by Andy Heller and Scott Frank. It's a good resource for the lease-option model.

Good luck!


Real Estate Investor · Cleveland, Ohio


Good plan. I have been very sucessful with rent to own property, I currently own 123 of them. This is the advise I want to offer you, obviously you don't want to hold the property past a couple years. I do three things to ensure a conversion on my properties 1. I get them a secured credit card 2. I debt negotiate their collections 3. I report there rent to the credit bureau[LINK REMOVED] today loans are score driven and you must help them increase their credit score. Many people were not given the same opporunities as we were and you will be doing them a great justice by helping them rebuild their credit not only for real estate purchase but auto loans, credit cards, even helping them secure a job. Good Luck!


Real Estate Investor · Hoquiam, Washington


Hey everyone thanks for the advice. I have decided to increase the option fee to probably 2%, or roughly $1800, plus the security deposit and 1st month's rent for a total move-in amount of about $3000.

Hey Eric- So It sounds like the matching thing might not work for the 3.5% in an FHA, but can the seller usually contribute above that- such as closing costs, etc? Meaning, if the buyer can bring the 3000 or so needed, could I contribute (if needed) the closing costs?

Thanks again. Any more advice would be great.



Yes the seller can contribute up to 6% closing costs


· Winslow, Maine


I have a SFR I'd like to go the "rent to own" route. I need some more "basic" info, such as:

1. would you use the same rental price and simply make $100 or so go twoard the downpayment or would you make the downpayment additional to the rent?

2. for clarification, the "buyer" rents the house, gives you 1-3% as a "lease option" which expires in xxx days or years, then a portion of the rent gets "swept" toward a downpayment. If, say, halfway thru the lease option period, the renter backs out, NONE of the downpayment amount gets counted, and instead gets counted as rent only, is this true?

Thanks!


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