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Real Estate Investor · Highland, New York


I have the link to all the comps.Page 3 is the property I`m purchasing.The 1st 2 pages are sold comps.I`m thinking the ARV is atleast $200k.I just want to make sure.

http://org.mlxchange.com/Pub/EmailView.asp?r=241230121&s=ORG&t=ORG

Thanks alot


Real Estate Investor · Cincinnati, Ohio


Robert, this is tough one to comp. The properties are not comparable at all (very different bedrooms, and year built). I usually get the square footage.
I would say $180K to be on the conservative side or $190K at the most.


Rehabber · Chandler, Arizona


Robert

I would use sold houses as your comps, not listed prices.

Small_wh_logo_full_1600_350_black_cJustin S., Wheelhouse Properties
E-Mail: wheelhouseproperties@gmail.com
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Real Estate Investor · Corpus Christi, Texas


Hi Robert,

agree with weelhouse, look at sold not selling for comps. Also, if you were going to look at houses currently on the market look for total residential listing. That has much more detail compared to this. Some of the other things I look for are things like days on the market, type of construction, year etc.

Just some thoughts.

-Ali


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


The first two pages are sold properties, right? I assume those are the sold prices. The sixth one, bottom of second page, though looks like its still active.

Even so its very difficult to come up with a value from these comps. Yours says seven beds. None of the others have seven, assuming that's real.

According to zillow, that sixth one, 445 New Paltz Rd Highland, NY 12528, is on five acres of land. The description on zillow, which appears to be a real estate listing, says its a three family, which makes the six beds make more sense. Some bought it for $181K (your number five listing), fixed it up, and has re-listed it for $375. Is yours really a multi?

Yours is only on a acre. How much is the land worth?

60 North is a 2/1 SFR 1,223 sq.ft. on half an acre. Sold for $139,900 on your list, but $120K on zillow's info. Maybe a fix and flip, though not much margin.

31 Mile Hill is a 2/1, 1200 sq.ft on half an acre. You show it sold at $159,900, but zillow shows it for sale, twice. Once at $159,900 and once at $199K.

17 Grove is a 3/2, 1296 sq.ft on about one seventh acre, you have it sold at $239, zillow says $225K.

10 Reservoir is a 3/1 960 sq.ft on a quarter acre. Sold for $219,900 on your list, $200,000 on zillow.

This consistent discrepancy between the sold prices in your data and in zillow (which is from public records) is interesting. Not sure which to believe

Yours is a 7/3 2230 sq.ft. on an acre.

None of these are very good comps. They sizes aren't close, the beds and baths don't match. Even more important, they're all clustered right around Highland where yours is three miles away. Certainly in my areas none of these would be meaningful comps. Even within the ones that are near Highland, I'd wonder if they're really all in the same neighborhood. But I know nothing about this area. Maybe this all really is one big, comparable neighborhood. If these are the best comps available, an appraiser's going to have a very difficult time. However, zillow does show some closer sales. Have a look and see if some of those are a better match.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Highland, New York


Yes my property is a legal 3 family.Here`s the more detailed list of residential comps.

http://org.mlxchange.com/Pub/EmailView.asp?r=1744367662&s=ORG&t=ORG

Here`s the Multifamily Comps in the area.

http://org.mlxchange.com/Pub/EmailView.asp?r=775616409&s=ORG&t=ORG

Yes these are all the comps in the area.

THe residential show list and sold for price.The multi list just shows list price and original list price,the 1st 2 sold,the 3rd is active.Hope this helps.But yes most of this area is similar unless you go into the town of highland,but the rest of the neighborhood is exactly the same.


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


OK, so the SFR properties are irrelevant, as are any comps inside Highland itself. So, in that first batch, only 445 New Paltz Rd Highland, NY 12528 is a decent comp. According to zillow, its a triplex, 6/3 (I assume that's three 2/1's), and is listed for $375K. That's competition, but doesn't really establish a value.

Yours is 2230, 7/3, and pretty close to the New Paltz Rd property.

The new one you've provided, 182 VINEYARD AV is a quad, looks like its rough from the description, and is listed at $175K.

So, no real sold comps, so far. Paltz Rd is on a huge lot. Don't know what that's worth, but you should be able to figure that out. Does that account for the big difference in the listing price?

At least someone thinks you should be able to get $125K per unit. You haven't said how many units you have, I'm guessing three from the bathrooms.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Highland, New York


Yeah 3 units.If I fixed it and resold myself I`d probably just list for between $200k-$220k tops.I`m 97% sure I`d sell it fairly easily for that.I just need to get a contractor in there to determine repair costs.Yeah that`s on 5 acres mine is on a little over 1 acre.The sq footage is also slightly larger 2230 on mine 2310 on the new paltz rd property.But I`m almost positive it will sell for atleast $200k


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Robert, Just curious why it is listed on the MLS as a single family property and not multi. Is it already set up (zoned) for multi use? I realize every area is different on requirements. In my area it must have separate electric meters for each unit. What will you have to do to convert it to multi if not already set up that way?




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