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Wholesaler · Houston, Texas


Not Getting the Hud-1 thing! If I am double closing using flash funding in the 1st transaction then 2nd closing with investor that brings all cash, why is hud-1 involved in second closing? Doesnt hud-1 have to do with buying with a loan? Experienced investors that do double closings please explain the closing process, Kind of confused, thanks!


Real Estate Investor · Rochester Hills, Michigan


See your other thread - I answered that over there too :)

Here is the deal - most title companies / lenders think a HUD is neccessary - it isn't unless it is a HUD deal.

Your buyer only needs to see the buyers statement - legally. Now - if they ask for a HUD - you might be SOL - takes a strong title company to say no and frankly I am not sure they can say no.

But I have done many many deals with no HUD just buyer/seller statement and the buyer never sees the seller statement.

Just have to have someone that knows the real deal which is rare


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


You're confusing government sponsored loans, like FHA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with the "settlement statement". A HUD-1 is a standardized settlement statement. No idea if its not required under some circumstances, but I've never done a closing without one.

Speak with your title company about what they will and won't do.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Wholesaler · Houston, Texas


Thanks for ya'll input! I think I understand now and I will check with the title company and see what they have to say but its really not a big deal just was wondering. I just really dont want the seller to know whats going on and it looks like I'm good on that part! Now Earnest money, does the buyer/investor pay me directly or do they deposit it in escrow? Sorry so many questions, I feel that I may be ready to take action now!


Rehabber · Chandler, Arizona


Teri-

You can do either but it usually goes in escrow.

Becareful not communicating what you are doing with the seller. If they are a cash buyer (and a repeat buyer) you definitely want to establish a relationship with them. If they are getting a great deal from you, they won't care what you make on the deal.

Small_wh_logo_full_1600_350_black_cJustin S., Wheelhouse Properties
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Rehabber · El Paso, Texas


Originally posted by Teri Menard
Now Earnest money, does the buyer/investor pay me directly or do they deposit it in escrow? Sorry so many questions, I feel that I may be ready to take action now!

My understanding is that earnest money doesn't have to go to anyone location unless it is agreed upon in the contract. Typically the money is put into escrow, but that doesn't mean it is absolutely required.


Wholesaler · Houston, Texas


I heard of wholesalers on hear saying they make the buyer pay them a non-refundable earnest money deposit to make sure they are serious that way if the buyer happens to back out at last minute u still made money on the deal. Just want to make sure of everything that can be done, any other replies would greatly be appreciated!


Real Estate Investor · Rochester Hills, Michigan


Originally posted by Jon Holdman


Speak with your title company about what they will and won't do.



And if your title company insists on showing the buyer the HUD then find a new title company or learn to live with it. Like I said - very few people actually understand that a HUD while standard isnt' necessary and all the buyer needs to be presetented with is a buyers statement.

I have done hundreds of deals where the buyer only sees the buyer statement - does the title company still do a HUD? Yes - but they don't have to and the buyer doesn't have to see it unless it is a certain type of transaction or they request it - and most don't as the buyers statement shows the same info (that is relevant to them)


Real Estate Investor · JACKSONVILLE , Florida


Teri, if its my first time doing a deal with a buyer I will require a $2,000 non-refundable deposit. After a couple of repeat buys with the same buyer, i will lower it to a $1,000. Once a relationship has been built between me and that buyer a deposit becomes unnecessary.


Real Estate Investor · Rochester Hills, Michigan


As for the EMD - what E. Beauvais said!


Wholesaler · Amarillo, Texas


According to RESPA, a HUD-1 is required on all federally related loans. Now I've never seen any specifications on the seller/buyer only seeing one side or the other, and I've done several transactions where the seller/buyer did only see their side of the transaction. I have also done several deals where there was no HUD-1 at all, just as Robert mentioned, but they were on cash transactions.

As for earnest money, you should pretty much ALWAYS get earnest money when you are selling a deal. Now I personally prefer the buyer to pay me directly rather than the title company so I don't have to hassle with getting a release of earnest money from the buyer if and when they back out.

Even if the buyer paid the earnest money to the title company directly, you could still get the money as long as the buyer doesn't have a legal right within the contract to back out and get his earnest money back. That would be determined by the contract and by your state's contract laws.


Wholesaler · Houston, Texas


Thanks everyone!


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