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Forums » Wholesaling » Making offers to Listing Agents-What's the Process

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Real Estate Investor · Orlando, Florida


Ok I'm done trying to work with agents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I would like to start making offers on mainly REO's by going through the listing agent.

I looked at Stephs' article about finding the contact name and number of the listing agent of the property.

But what's the process????? What questions will they ask?? How would I sign the paper work once it is accepted?? How soon should I follow up?

Jarci


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


If you've never purchased a property before, I HIGHLY recommend starting by having your own buyer's agent, and not going directly through the listing agent.

Here are some reasons for this:

1. The listing agent won't represent you (most likely) and if you don't understand the process, you will likely get taken advantage of until you do.

2. REO listing agents are generally overworked and not very patient with people who don't understand the process. If you submit an offer that isn't properly prepared (or missing pieces), you may never hear anything back and have no idea if it was submitted or not.

3. More and more REO listing agents are going to online submission forms, and these forms often require you to be an agent to submit your offer.

4. Many REO listing agents are too busy to show you their properties. Especially the good properties where there will be many other interested parties. If they have the choice between sitting at their desk accepting turn-key offers from a buyer's agent and having to go to a house and show a new investor -- who may or may not be serious -- a property, they will choose to just take the turn-key offers.

5. There are now several REO listing agents in my area that don't answer the phone. If you don't know them personally, it's nearly impossible to get them on the phone. As such, if you don't have access to the MLS, you will have no way to know what forms they require for their offer (many require modified versions of the standard state contract).

All that said, if you really want to try to go it alone, here's what I would recommend:

- Call the number for the brokerage and ask to speak with the agent who has the property, or ask the person who answers the phone who has the property;

- When you get the agent, ask what forms they require to submit an REO offer and where you can get them. Most likely it's the state contract (perhaps modified) and they can either send you a blank version or can point you to a version on their website;

- Fill out the form CORRECTLY. Again, they likely won't have patience for someone representing themselves who doesn't know the process;

- Include a scanned copy of an earnest money check and either proof of funds or a pre-qualification letter (if you're getting financing);

- Either fax or email the completed offer to the agent (depending on their preference);

- Wait to hear something back.

- If the offer is countered or there are multiple offers, the agent will email or call you. They may have more forms for you to fill out if the property has gone to "highest and best." They may ask for more documentation, etc.

- If the offer is accepted, the agent will send you an addendum to sign, and will ask you to send a certified or cashier's check to the closing attorney or to them to open escrow.

- After that, you'll want to give the closing attorney the information for your lender and vice-versa. They will coordinate, and you'll probably get some questions here and there. Ultimately, you'll get a closing date, and you'll need to wire funds or bring a cashier's check to the closing.

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
Telephone: 770-906-6358
Website: http://www.123flip.com
http://www.123flip.com


Multi-family Investor · Rochester, New York


Going through the listing agent is awesome.
When you're closing with CASH!


Real Estate Investor · Orlando, Florida


@J.Scott thankx for the detailed response. But I did two SS with a "mentor"......I have two PandS agreement forms I can look at for reference. For filling out the contract is not what im too worried about. I have a title agency that will do a courtesy close for a fee. So I would request that info to be sent to them (I'm planning to wholesale it).

@Mark my terms will be CASH, 30 days close...possible 7 day inspection.

Thank you for your replies


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Mark Updegraff
Going through the listing agent is awesome.
When you're closing with CASH!

It's awesome, but it's not easy if you've never done it before and have no idea what the process is...

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
Telephone: 770-906-6358
Website: http://www.123flip.com
http://www.123flip.com


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Jarcelyn Dorsey
But I did two SS with a "mentor"......I have two PandS agreement forms I can look at for reference. For filling out the contract is not what im too worried about.

Short sales are different than REOs. Many REO listing agents have modified versions of the P&S that they use, and won't accept a standard P&S.

Do you have a proof of funds that indicates you have the cash available (in a bank account that's in your name)? If not, REO agents won't take you very seriously...

I'm going to assume you plan to use a HML or transactional funds. And a HML letter or transactional funding letter is NOT proof of funds...and the listing agent will NOT consider this to be a cash offer.

Forgive me if my assumptions about your not having cash to close is incorrect -- in my experience, people start off wholesaling because they don't have the cash. Obviously not always, but generally. Again, I apologize if I'm wrong in that assumption.

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
Telephone: 770-906-6358
Website: http://www.123flip.com
http://www.123flip.com


Real Estate Investor · Orlando, Florida


I look at it like this:

I GOTTA DO SOMETHING..........If i keep waiting on the "agent" that's all I will be doing.....waiting..If u want something done do it yourself......regardless of your lack of experience.....I can read and do know how to use google.


Real Estate Investor · Orlando, Florida


Your assumptions are right but there's nothing to it but to do it.


Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


If you write your offer as cash, the listing agent will expect to see a bank statement with the same name as on the offer showing you have the cash to actually close. Cash offers on REOs also sometimes require very large earnest money checks, 10% or so. Offers on REOs in general are going to require significant earnest money even with a financed offer.

I honestly think wholesaling REOs is the very hardest way of wholesaling. They're already on the MLS and investors who are buying are watching the MLS and will pounce with a real all-cash offer if the price is right. Banks rarely come off the listing price very much, so its mostly a matter of being the one to get a good offer in first. The banks are going to do everything they can to make your deal fail - short inspection contingencies, large EM's that they will want when the offer is accepted, a pile of adendums, 90 day no-resale clauses, etc., etc., etc.

Agents, both listing and buyers, know how the process really works and know if you're trying to wholesale a deal the odds of you getting an offer accepted are slim and those of actually closing the deal are slimmer still.

Find an agent who can do electronic contracts and just submit offers blind (i.e., don't look at the place.) If you get lucky and get one accepted, then go have a look.

But better is to do your own marketing and try to find your own sellers.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · State of Florida, Florida


A good agent can:

1. Make an offer for you.

2. Help you close the deal.

3. List the property for you.

4. Get it sold for you.

5. And it is possible you never even saw the property!

Sounds impossible? It happens all the time!

Keep looking for a good one!

rd
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Land Rescue League LLC, Managing-Director (Property Liquidators)
As Trustee for: The Renaissance Trust DAT 8/25/01

Robert Dobbs,
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Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Massachusetts


Having a buyers agent has been integral part of our team.

Giving the agent specifics on what your looking for saves tons of time.

They can also build good relations with the REO sellers agents in the area.

Keep interviewing RE agents. I found finding ones that own rental property themselves tend to be more on the same page with what you might be looking for.


Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, Georgia


Originally posted by Jarcelyn Dorsey
Your assumptions are right but there's nothing to it but to do it.

Sadly, just because it rhymes doesn't make it good advice.

It sounds like you're frustrated because you can't find a good buyer's agent who can help you make REO offers. If that's the case, you're going to be MUCH MORE frustrated when you start making offers yourself and those offers are completely ignored (which is what will happen if you try to make cash offers without legitimate proof of funds).

Save yourself the frustration and find a good buyer's agent who is willing to work with you and who is knowledgeable about REO offers and how to get them accepted.

J Scott, Lish Properties, LLC
Telephone: 770-906-6358
Website: http://www.123flip.com
http://www.123flip.com


Real Estate Investor · Orlando, Florida


I will keep looking in the meantime I will try my hand.


Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Massachusetts


You can do it. I went through 7 agents to find the one I have now been working with for 3.5 years.


Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Massachusetts


One key characteristic I also found was their eagerness to learn new things.




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