So I have seen a bunch of people comment about their super duper double secret handshake method of removing inquires on one's credit report. What method do you use and how effective has it been?
So I have seen a bunch of people comment about their super duper double secret handshake method of removing inquires on one's credit report. What method do you use and how effective has it been?
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
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Token bump...maybe it really is a secret!
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
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Bryan, I think you brought this up since you knew I was here...LOL!
No secret handshake, but a shake down maybe. Inquiries can hurt, especially a cash lenders, depends on your total picture as it may be seen as someone trying to get money for something they can't or should not swing.....but if you have ten inquiries at car dearships and then buy a car, nothing is really made of that. It is also viewed as you shopping, lenders don't like that and the inquiries will show up. One bank may think you have several loans in the mill as well. Some banks have written into their loan policy that they won't deal with someone with over X inquiries in a period of time...if so, explain why, if they don't like it, there are many lenders that will understand your position. It's an assessment of contingent liabilities.
A simple letter of explanation to the lender...and the reporting agencies that can go in your file, should be sufficient.
The level of inquiries is also viewed in light of your business, is it customary to continually seek financing? If so, it's no big deal. There is a level of underwriting factors such as this as with large cash deposits for example. A series of large cash deposits is a red flag for several criminal issues, but if made by a car dealer, they are pretty much overlooked, until it's time to review the dealer and the level of business conducted....as an example.
So, it's my opinion that if someone tells you they will sell you a plan to avoid such issues, it's another scam....
Yeah...I don't really want to pay someone to do this. If someone can let me in on what the "secret" is it should be easy enough to do myself. I have a lot of inquiries on my report because we personally guarantee business debt at times or shop for better lines often.
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
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Bryan,
As a general rule you can not remove correctly reported activity of any kind from a credit report in any legitimate way.
If a borrower disputes a negative item on a credit report that he/she knows is accurate it's fraud at worst and a frivolous dispute at best. It will always come back. Having said that inquiries can be removed from credit reports if they are invalid, meaning the borrower never applied for credit with the creditor reporting the inquiry.
I recommend disputing the inquiry with both the credit bureau and the reporting creditor in that case. The dispute letter to the creditor should include a demand that they provide a copy of the credit application.
I would also recommend the borrower watch his/her credit report closely in the coming months. Inquiries showing up that the borrower doesn't recognize is one of the first signs that the borrower may be a victim of identity theft.
In your specific case, I'd say Financexaminer is dead on, the number of inquiries would be evaluated along side the type of business you do and the types of credit being applied for. This is similar to the way inquiries from car loan and mortgage shopping are treated.
Bryan,
About a year or so ago people were getting hard pulls taken off their reports by pulling their credit daily through truecredit.com. These would appear as soft pulls and would eventually start bumping off hard pulls. There was a lot of talk about it on creditboards.com. Since then, truecredit changed their policy to allow only monthly credit pulls, and I think the credit bureaus tightened that little loophole up.
I would check out creditboards.com forums where a lot of people post their experience obtaining biz credit and personal credit, as well as experience cleaning up their credit without paying a company $$$$ to do it. That site has been the biggerpockets.com of the credit world for several years for me.
Thanks all.
To clarify...I have already jumped through the business credit hoops. I just want to pull off inquiries going forward to help with my business optimizer score.
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
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U can easily remove inquiries from your Transunion and Equifax credit reports. I have had over 20 removed from Oct to Jan. It just takes money and patience. I got all my info from creditboards.com but if you need any more info, just send me a message and I can walk you through.
I sent you a colleague request Eduardo...Can you please post what you know here for future readers though?
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
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No problem. First off, I got all my information from creditboards.com. That forum has a WEALTH of info and is a real treasure to me. I am going to give a high level overview, you should join creditboards to get a more detailed overview.
The process for removing inquiries from your credit reports is called bumpage or B*. You can only bump inqs off of your Transunion and Equifax reports. Experian does not allow B*. In order to achieve B*, you have to use daily report pullers to pull your credit report EVERYDAY. Every pull from these pullers leaves a soft inq that does not affect your score. As those softs accumulate, they will began to bump those hard inquiries off of your reports.
For TU there is only one daily puller that works and its called Smartcredit Premium. Its 29.99 a month.
For EQ, I think there are 4: USAA-CCMP, My Privacy Matters, Credit Secure (Amex only), and Equifax Complete. All with different monthly prices.
I started my B* process in Oct and I had over 20 INQs on EQ, now I have 2. I had like 15 for TU, now I have 1.
I used Smartcredit Premium for Transunion,
I used USAA, MPM, and Equifax Complete for Equifax.
Once again, this is a high level overview.
Thanks Eduardo.
What do you do with the online login to get a soft inquiry? I have a subscription to Truecredit.com....will that work?
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
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I am not sure about truecredit. The ones i posted are definite daily pullers that work.
For the ones that work, once you login you just have to click the link that pulls your credit report.
Thanks Eduardo! For those interested here is a good primer from Creditboards.com:
It seems that the risks may not be justified if your scores are good and you are just trying to remove inquires to strengthen your file.
I am also questioning the value if it doesn't work for Experian. Won't most lenders pull all three and see everything anyway?
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
I help busy people profit from real estate
Actually, most lenders usually pull 1. The only one that I have seen on my report that pulled or 3 was Capital one. I keep my Experian frozen since I can bump those inqs off.
If you are already in the high 700's or aren't looking to add more credit, you really don't need to do B*.
I did it because my credit wasn't that good and I wanted to clean it up as much as humanly possible.
We pulled our score recently and my wife and I both had around 800 or so. This is really more of a curiosity thing for me.
For business lines inquires detract from the overall strength of your file. I have a scoring model that I track monthly in case banks start issuing lines above $50k on terms I can live with again soon. We generally keep our properties with debt on them so that isn't good collateral for lines right now. Later on we may restructure our debt so that we can collateralize lines so I would like to be able to remove inquiries from trade lines we personally guarantee.
I'm not sure if it will help if we keep the Experian inquiries. Experian is generally our lowest score so it won't be the middle one if that is what most lenders look at.
Bryan Hancock, Bullseye Capital Real Property Opportunity Fund
E-Mail: b.hancock@bullseyecap.com
Telephone: 1-800-577-0401
Website: http://www.bullseyecapfund.com
I help busy people profit from real estate