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Homeowner · Miramar, Florida


I have to switch from Home Owners Insurance to Landlord. My agent quote me the following, please let me know your thoughts.

P.S. Someone suggested liability is too low, but did not said what would be a good coverage.

I got the quote and here is what I got.

• Policy Type: DP3
• Dwelling: $100K
• Other Structures: $7,400
• Content: $5,000
• Loss of Use: $0
• Liability Coverage: $100K
• Medical Payments: $2,000
• 10% of the property value in lost rent based on "fair market value" for the neighborhood.

It came out for $525.50.

Is there any room for improvement or this is good enough?

Looking forward to hear your thoughts.


Commercial Real Estate Broker · Canton, Georgia


Not an expert on insurance but it seems reasonable to me.


· Chicago, Illinois


I got a quote this week with similar numbers. $105,000 dwelling coverage, $12,000 for lost rent, $2,500 deductible and $1M liability. $573 for the year. I was happy with the price and yours sounds like it's in line.


Homeowner · Miramar, Florida


1 million Liability? That not even close to mine as my liability is 100K.

In regards to liability, what would be a good amount? Is 1 million standard for investors?


· Select a State


Hi,

Great to see. My qoute was very similar.

100% Replacement Cost
Quote Results Limit Premium

Coverages
Dwelling (Coverage A) 165,000 770.00
Dwelling Extra Replacement Cost 33,000 10.00
Dwelling Extension 16,500
Personal Property (Coverage B) 8,250
Business Liability (Coverage L) each occurrence 1,000,000
Business Liability (Coverage L) annual aggregate 2,000,000
Premises Medical Payments (Coverage M) each person 5,000
Loss of Rents (Actual Loss Sustained)
Deductibles
Policy deductible 2,500 (154.00)

Total yearly $630.

I extended replacement cost/dwelling in case values rose above hense the difference between your qoute and mine.

Glad I am on the same page at least.


Homeowner · Miramar, Florida


Seems to be I am the only one with 100K liability. I'll contact my agent and make the adjustments based on your comments. Thanks.


Real Estate Investor · -, Illinois


Charley,

I carry at least $500,000 liability on each property. I work for a large health insurance carrier and let me tell you, it does not take that many bills to eat through $100,000 of coverage.


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Hi Charley,

I am playing it safe with the LLC and the Liability insurance, but I can't afford to take chances at this stage of my life.

Thanks and good luck.

Peter


Homeowner · Miramar, Florida


Thank you Ryan and Peter. I'll make the adjustments. I am currently paying $800 for home owners insurance, so I will still cut some expenses there.

If the new quote comes higher than expected I will get in touch with you both so you can tell me the name of the insurance company you are using, of course, if it is not a problem with you.

I'll post the results, it may help someone else down the road.

All best!


· Chicago, Illinois


Probably a smart call on upping the liability coverage. Better safe than sorry.

Looking at my quote, $250 of the premium is for the liability portion. I went through a buddy of mine who's a broker and ended up going with Columbia Insurance Group. The price was right and they will issue a commercial policy in the name of my LLC.


Residential Landlord · Indianapolis, Indiana


I have two policies for rental properties, one has a liability limit of $500,000, the other $1M. They are both covered for loss of rents and full replacement cost. The premiums are $350 and $580 per year. The lower is because it is on a condo and most of the building is covered under an association policy, I only have to insure drywall and in for my unit. The added expense to increase the liability coverage was well worth it IMO, I certainly can't afford a million dollar lawsuit.


Homeowner · DFW, Texas


Hi Folks,

Glad to see this discussion. I've gotten a quote for landlord's insurance that was triple what you're being quoted. My properties are in the Dallas area: single family homes, 100k value. Couple of questions:

1. What companies are giving these premium quotes?
2. Where are your properties located?

Thanks,
Don

Originally posted by Peter Seely
Hi,

Great to see. My qoute was very similar.

100% Replacement Cost
Quote Results Limit Premium

Coverages
Dwelling (Coverage A) 165,000 770.00
Dwelling Extra Replacement Cost 33,000 10.00
Dwelling Extension 16,500
Personal Property (Coverage B) 8,250
Business Liability (Coverage L) each occurrence 1,000,000
Business Liability (Coverage L) annual aggregate 2,000,000
Premises Medical Payments (Coverage M) each person 5,000
Loss of Rents (Actual Loss Sustained)
Deductibles
Policy deductible 2,500 (154.00)

Total yearly $630.

I extended replacement cost/dwelling in case values rose above hense the difference between your qoute and mine.

Glad I am on the same page at least.


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte & Fort Mill SC, North Carolina


Hmmmm.... so you all seem to have extra liability coverage on your properties. I carry a $2M umbrella policy in addition to individual Landlord Policies. Do you think that does the trick, or should I have extra liability coverage on each property too.

Here's an example of one of my policies (with State Farm, NC):

Premium = $473
Deductible = 1% ($1,352)
Dwelling = $135,200
Dwelling extension = $13,520
Personal property = $6760
Loss of Rents = actual loss
Business liability = $300,000
Annual Aggregate = $600,000
Medical Payments (ea person) = $1,000 (I guess that should be more)


Real Estate Investor · Dallas, Texas


@Terri - I think $1M per property is generally sufficient. I bumped one from 500k to 1m for less than $4. That wasn't for the full year, but I'd bet you could do it for $20-25. Yes, your MP should be higher.

@Don - Insurance costs more in this part of TX. My home insurance tripled when we moved to Dallas county from Williamson county (right outside Austin).


Real Estate Investor · Woodbridge, Virginia


Does the type of property change the premiums much? In other words, assuming equal coverage, how much different are the premiums for a someone renting out a condo versus a SFH?


Residential Landlord · Saint Louis, Missouri


My policy is as follows

Dwelling $150,000
Earthquake: $150,000
Medical 5,000
Loss of use : Yes
Liability $500,000
Personal property: 10,000

Mine is $1,000 a year.
I got 6 different quotes and they were all relatively around this price....


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte & Fort Mill SC, North Carolina


Jonathan, you have earthquake coverage in Missouri?


SFR Investor · Annapolis, Maryland


Originally posted by Terri Pour-Rastegar
Hmmmm.... so you all seem to have extra liability coverage on your properties. I carry a $2M umbrella policy in addition to individual Landlord Policies. Do you think that does the trick, or should I have extra liability coverage on each property too.

My insurance guys just told me that having $300,000 minimum liability on all policies (landlord, homeowners, auto, etc.), then having the umbrella in place should work fine.


Real Estate Investor · San Diego, California


Here is an idea. Make your tenants get renters insurance. Here in CA it goes for about $12 a month, it provides an initial $100k liability and $1k medical payments, and in the event of a loss due to stupid tenants the loss report (known as a C.L.U.E. report) will make that one individuals renters insurance more expensive in the future, but your policy price wont increase. (as long as you were not determined to be at fault or negligent in the loss)


Real Estate Broker · Castle Rock, Colorado


My Plan
Commercial Liability Umbrella
Small ($100k) each Structure
RENTERS Insurance Requirement + Landlord Named In Policy

An LLC offers little protection unless you are making individual Companies for Each Property, in addition expanding overhead, accounting I believe the veil will be pierced anyway if enough money is involved.

Delivering Safe and Code Compliant product is the starting point, or no amount of Premium Payments will return anything.




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