Does anyone have any real sources for larger REO packages (1B or more)? I have buyers that are hard proofed that I am having a difficult time finding real product. In most cases I am direct to the buyers rep.
Any help is appreciated!
Does anyone have any real sources for larger REO packages (1B or more)? I have buyers that are hard proofed that I am having a difficult time finding real product. In most cases I am direct to the buyers rep.
Any help is appreciated!
Hey Burke -
I see you've got a hand full of Fluff posts on the forum, all so you can post here in the Bulk area. We don't have a 10 post rule so people can just make 1 word posts elsewhere. Please try to contribute or we will have to limit your access to this area.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Josh,
I plan on contributing to this forum on a regular basis, however my only area of interest is in the bulk REO section. Sorry for the " fluff" but this is really the only forum I am interested in. I can assure you that future posts will be of substance.
You can start contributing by telling us why you are interested in bulk REO, and how much experience you have closing deals of this stature... :popcorn:
Paul,
If you read my post I explained that I am interested in finding new and reliable sources for bulk REOs.
Thanks
Here is some advice for you then...If you are looking for " new" and " reliable" sources of Bulk REO, I would say that it is safe to conclude that A. you have little or no experience in closing bulk REO deals, and B. you have been burned by your last sources.
If you are looking to close a Billion+ deal with no experience, I hope your faith in God is very strong.
Maybe you have a ton of experience...but we will never know this unless you clue us in on how many deals you have closed. You being " direct" to the Buyer's rep is not direct to the buyer IMO, so maybe you need to clarify what you have already tried to do to facilitate this deal and others so you aren't bombarded with things everyone already knows.
My whole point here is to start small, build good relationships and sources that will get you to the bigger deals. Jumping on the Bulk REO forum as a Wet Newbie saying that you have a buyer for 1B+ is not going to get you very far, because I have a buyer for 1 Quadrillion in REO inventory :roll:
Wow, that made me laugh. Amazing insight.
Anyway, I have active and qualified buyers looking for bulk REO; if anyone on this site has access to real sellers or if you are looking to sell product please feel free to reply to this post or contact me off-board.
Thanks
I apologize Paul, but this reply with the icon is hilarious :lol: ! I usually just read the bulk forum discussions because I know absolutely nothing regarding this subject. But while I am here, I do have a " newbie" question for all of you seasoned REO dealmakers. I keep receiving emails from someone who says that they have in their possession different REO tapes. Included in the email today was:
(Quote) Hello,
Here are some reo packages that's available:
3 1B NW 33-35 +3
645M NY= 51+3
500M bpo NY= 55+3
Also, if there are any packages that you or your client(s) are interested in let me know because it may be available. We have alot of (escrow) packages in inventory, so let me know your interested.
Thanks (End of quote)
My question is how do you screen this person and find out if they can really provide these packages? Thank you in advance for your answers, and please do not use this posting as a punching bag or cutting board :type:
Based on what?
Your first effort is to jump in the pool head first and there's no water. There's no greeting, experiences, reciprocation offer, referrences etc
Why would I risk my relationships that took me years of execution on a junk post that followed meaningless offerings just to get here?
It's the hurry up mentallity that is so prevelent and is the most humorous to engage, read, and eat popcorn in front of
Before anyone drops a 1B anything they're going to have to know you and the fact that you mention " you're likely 3 away" is another glaring comfort zone
I feel for you.....
Maybe rethinking the issues that got you here or why there's no product would be a starting point,
RELATIONSHIPS are the single largest component you're lacking
Start over!
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As I said previously, I have relationships with active REO buyers that have been proofed for large amounts. It is up to you whether or not you want to " risk your relationships." I am direct to the buyer's rep, certainly not " 3 away" .
Chances are, if they are already sending you an email with these " tapes" without some sort of relationship in place, they are not direct. Lets say they are legit though, How about meeting them in person? People who conduct large transactions of such usually have some sort of relationship with the source. Example, the servicing company that I work for has built a great relationship with Lehman, CIT, Deutsche, and many more because we started small. We service a small portion of their portfolios successfully, then they give us more. We show investors that we have these relationships in place and they pool their money to purchase inventory.
How did you develop relationships with big buyers with no sources in place? Did you see BILLION and your mouth started watering? You come across as a professional middle man (BROKER) since you don't want to volunteer any more information.
Paul - It's not as if I don't have sources in place currently. I do. However, I'm constantly seeking new sources. My goal is to work with people that are
1) Competent
2) Honest, and do not misrepresent
3) Not greedy
4) Responsive
5) Close to the source
I have built up a nice network of buyers and sellers over the years. I act as an intermediary (broker, consultant, middle man, ...) for my clients in buying or selling REOs, NPNs, CMOs, financial instruments, and diamonds. I'm sure that most in this forum are brokers in some capacity.
The difference you will find with working with me is that
1) I will never misrepresent my relationship to the buyer or seller
2) My escrow attorney proofs all of my buyers
3) I verify product that I bring to my buyers
4) Once buyer and seller are introduced I do not interfere
I am looking to establish long-term relationships. If anyone feels that they can put me in touch with a seller (and has the qualities listed above), please reply to this thread or contact me off-board.
Best,
I verify product that I bring to my buyers
There are no sellers that will ever give you product...
How would you verify the " seller" owned the rights to sell what was listed?
It's very evident this is extremely new to you,
Keep plugging along though.........there are some sellers here that should keep you real busy
Welcome aboard and I look forward to those enlightening posts you're gonna offer us,
Cheers...... :beer:
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James,
Interesting topic with non competence of the actual sellers. I'm actually amazed at the mass incompetence of sellers of not being up to par in terms of not shopping their own inventory. Funny thing is, one regional bank we met with used all our procedures and we didn't get the exclusive, I guess it's a freebie live and learn. In your experience when approaching sellers what is enough to give them without giving it all away?
James,Interesting topic with non competence of the actual sellers. I'm actually amazed at the mass incompetence of sellers of not being up to par in terms of not shopping their own inventory.
When would they have endured this type of market?
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Hi James,
Website is on the back burner, been working on developing relationships and it hasn't been a priority. Been establishing direct relationships and face to face meetings, apologize for the delay, have to decide what to put in the content as we continue as a group. However as soon as I get it up and running I'll post it.