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· Monarch Beach, California


If you are the seller or seller mandate of bulk reos/tapes. Please contact me ASAP.

I am direct to buyers.

This is what I need:

A letter on lender letterhead stating that you have made REO packages available to me and/or my company.

If you can do this, we are in business...

shoot me a PM


Real Estate Investor · Marietta, Georgia


So you want to be able to leverage that letter to gain buyers right?


Real Estate Consultant · Houston, Texas


Yes I do have a company that works direct with quite a few top 25 banks they have sfr's and commercial tapes available from 20MM and up. What they do is a real simple protocol for new clients. Their is a simple phone conversation to see what the buyer is looking for directly if you are the mandate then they request to see the papers and the POF that go directly to attorneys and then tapes are sent out immediately for bidding. My email and contact information is on my page. Im sorry if its too long im new to this site.


· Fresno, California


I am direct with a buyer in Fresno, CA. We want sfr, city of Fresno, Max BPO/ unit = $200k. Total BPO at this time is 4M. But we will want more in Jan or Feb. Are u interested?
Peter


· Monarch Beach, California


peter- i am looking for sellers, not buyers. cant help ya.

george- i need that letter as a formality to my buyers that i have already leveraged to make them feel safer in a deal that i may or may not have (and since i originally wrote this post, we got past the "letter" thing. they arent requiring it any longer) :mrgreen:


Real Estate Investor · Myrtle Beach, South Carolina


Sean,

Yes I am seller direct. First you will need to change the working order. You will have to deal direct with us with negociated terms with your buyer. You can buy our lists or customize a geographic area. POF and escrow follow.


Real Estate Investor · Marietta, Georgia


Originally posted by Gary Hawes
Sean,

Yes I am seller direct. First you will need to change the working order. You will have to deal direct with us with negociated terms with your buyer. You can buy our lists or customize a geographic area. POF and escrow follow.



Hi Gary,

Direct to a Bank, or private seller? ..

Real Estate Investor · Commack, New York


Hi Sean and George,

I am direct to a private seller who primarily deals in Nationwide product, but can do state-specific requests (3-state minimum), and then also gets in portfolios for specific areas, but that is not something you can place an order for. The specific area opportunities come up when they come up. The other NW and 3-state requests buyers can specify what they are looking for.

Only 4 pieces of paperwork are necessary to place an order - an NCND, a Buyer's Profile Sheet, a Fee Agreement, and a soft POF. With submittal of those, I will put you in direct contact with the seller, who performs very quickly and is very easy to get along with. Custom orders placed now would definitely close before the end of the year assuming about 3 or 4 days DD.

Please PM me if you are interested.

Thanks.


Real Estate Investor · Marietta, Georgia


Originally posted by Dawn Vought
Hi Sean and George,

I am direct to a private seller who primarily deals in Nationwide product, but can do state-specific requests (3-state minimum), and then also gets in portfolios for specific areas, but that is not something you can place an order for. The specific area opportunities come up when they come up. The other NW and 3-state requests buyers can specify what they are looking for.

Only 4 pieces of paperwork are necessary to place an order - an NCND, a Buyer's Profile Sheet, a Fee Agreement, and a soft POF. With submittal of those, I will put you in direct contact with the seller, who performs very quickly and is very easy to get along with. Custom orders placed now would definitely close before the end of the year assuming about 3 or 4 days DD.

Please PM me if you are interested.

Thanks.


What happened to Gary - LOL

Ok Dawn, let's say I want NV, AZ, UT - 5MM - what add on fee can I expect... Tape price +? -

Can your seller supply CA too? ... Will CA cost more, or best to leave it out for an example? Can you send me a sold tape?


Real Estate Investor · New York , New York


I am a direct seller of Bulk REO's nationwide. I have homes across the country, currently most of the homes are in OH and MI but have in other states. My current package has a updated BPO value of (172 homes , mostly single family) 2.8m and looking to sell at 60¢ on the dollar but can negotiate. All via quit claim deed. Let me know if your interested.


· Monarch Beach, California


Everyone that replied to this post. Thank you for your advice. I'm new to this Bulk REO strategy and it seems to me that there is a lot of BS that goes around. I've closed 1 deal thus far and I'm pretty sure that I'm lucky.

Everyone please check your PM's.

Thank you! :D


Real Estate Investor · Commack, New York


Originally posted by George Wagner


What happened to Gary - LOL

Ok Dawn, let's say I want NV, AZ, UT - 5MM - what add on fee can I expect... Tape price +? -

Can your seller supply CA too? ... Will CA cost more, or best to leave it out for an example? Can you send me a sold tape?



Hi George,

This seller will do general NW packages from $5M and up. For the 3-state (minimum) requests, they require purchase prices of $100M and up. They sell those 3-state-specific packages at 45% of BPO value. For purchase prices less than $100M, their general NW packages usually go somewhere in the 40's, but can range in the 30's to the 50's, depending on the exact tape mix. (You can make some specific requests, like "No Detroit" or "Less than 5% rust belt", or even put your state preferences in a general NW request, but those wouldn't be guaranteed.) If you wanted a general NW package of at least $100M, the price would be 37% of BPO value.

That is their general guidelines. That being said, I will ask him tomorrow if he can do a $5M +fees NV, AZ, and UT deal, and see what he says. He is constantly expanding his contacts and sources, so it is ever evolving with what they seem to be able to do.

Commissions would be on top of any/all of those prices above. If you are the buyer, you would only need to pay 1% to cover me in the seller's rep slot. If you are the buyer's rep, then we could do a 2% commission deal, with us each getting 1%. If you are an intermediary, you and any other intermediaries would go into that slot, and the deal would be 37+3, using one of the examples above.

The seller can supply CA when mixed with another 2 states. So you could, for example, add CA to your list of the other states you mentioned, assuming the request would be for at least $100M. He does have very large buyers that he has worked with for many years that he does give CA exclusively to by basically taking down CA with other states and then breaking the tapes up manually to be just CA in one tape and all the other states in the other tape (which he sells to other buyers). But like I said those are for very large and long term clients. He would not do all of that extra effort for someone new coming in, but as you perform, this seller is all about relationships, so it could definitely be discussed after you performed on at least a few deals if everything was flowing nicely.

He will also get offerred on a spotty basis area specific deals (for example he has a FL condo deal currently) that could be for CA, but those just come in when they come available, so there wouldn't be a consistentcy there. I believe that CA product he sells in the 60's, so yes, CA will cost more, either by itself, or it will cause the price of general NW to increase in general.

I can send you a sold tape that I will need to slightly sanitize and an executed Purchase & Sale Contract (with all names, signatures, etc. blacked out), as I do have NCND's in place with all parties, which must be honored.


Real Estate Investor · Commack, New York


Hi All,

I had a heart to heart talk with the seller, and he indicated that if you just wanted specific states, he could do that.

George - I told him about your NV, AZ, UT $5M request. He said he could easily supply NV and AZ, but laughed about the UT request. He actually runs an investment club in UT, and him and the other investors take all of the UT product that comes out. He said you would need to pay close to market to get the UT product, which obviously won't work.

Bottom line is he confirmed that they do have so many different sources and business going on, they can get all the CA product that anyone wants, and can also get any individual states of any size - so I stand corrected from my last post!

Price points for CA and NY are the highest out of all the 50 states. Other than those 2 states, prices range from the upper 30's to mid-50's depending on the mix of the tape. (Some concentrating on MI, OH, etc. are lower than that too.)

He currently has a CA tape he just bought that consists of 238 homes, about 65% Southern CA and 35% Northern CA. They didn't do BPOs yet, but the listing prices that they are currently on the market for is $49,380,400. They are looking to sell for around $29M - $30M.

The bottom line is that these sellers have so many connections, they can pretty much get anything, and they usually get it for really cheap so that they can give the investor who's buying from them a good deal. That's the way they like to do business.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.
Dawn


Real Estate Investor · provo, Utah


Hi Sean,

We are seller mandate direct to bank. Due to our strategic banking relationships, you would have the ability to buy REOs in BULK direct from banks at 10-33% of their current market value. Properties are available right now in all 50 states.

Let me know if we can help you.


Real Estate Investor · Marietta, Georgia


So Lawrence - that would mean 67-90% of the current PBO right? There are dozens of banks that have online sites that anyone can go to get pricing like that!

There is even a link on bigger pockets that lists them all. >> http://www.biggerpockets.com/bank-reo.html

Whoops, I read that wrong.. 10-33% OF


Real Estate Consultant · Little Town, Oklahoma


Originally posted by Lawrence Whipple
you would have the ability to buy REOs DIRECT from banks at 10-33% of their current market value..

Wow!

REO's are now selling for the same discount as a non performing second?

Come on guys........this is getting ridiculous!



Real Estate Investor · provo, Utah


George- The key word is Bulk. I see i left that out of my original post.

Christopher- Why would I advertise it if it couldn't be delivered? That's a waste of my time and a sure way to ruin rep. We have the track record.


Real Estate Consultant · Little Town, Oklahoma


Originally posted by Lawrence Whipple

Christopher- Why would I advertise it if it couldn't be delivered? That's a waste of my time and a sure way to ruin rep. We have the track record.

:roll:

Not sure you have been around long enough to know what is real yet so I'll let you continue with fantasy pricing. I'm sure you're doing great so enjoy the fruits of your labor!



Real Estate Investor · Marietta, Georgia


Ok let's clear this up. Lawrence, you are saying that you sell Bulk properties at 10-33 "cents on the dollar" of the current BPO right?

Christoper, I do see that every day and I will be happy to provide several sold tapes as examples. The properties are not in great areas. Detroit is 10 Cents or lower.. so is Cleveland. Also know that is for a quit claim - not full warrantee deeds.

Lawrence, Do you have an example of a sold property or two you can post?


Real Estate Investor · California


I am a direct buyer interested in Bulk REOs in CA. Preferably southern but will look statewide. If this is something you can provide please let me know.

We typically acquire these properties at 48 to 55% inclusive of all fees. I will not work in daisy chains but one sellers mandate is ok. If you can do this let me know.

Dave Woodward
dwoodward@GSPLLC.net


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