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09 Jun
Author: Richard Warren • URL: http://www.rehabberseye.com
News Flash: It Ain’t Happening!
rules of economics didn’t apply. These neophytes jumped in with both feet and paid a heavy price when reality returned to bite them. The answer: hopefully never. Like many investors, lenders were caught up in the hype and loosened credit standards in ways that were previously unimaginable. It wasn’t that long ago when you actually had to have a down payment to buy a house. In their haste to originate loans, lenders allowed people to buy without putting in any of their own money. When the market slowed it was very easy for people to walk away from houses that they had invested nothing in.
Answer: don’t hold your breath. Stated income loans were originally designed for the self-employed borrowers who had a difficult time verifying information. The paid the price for the convenience in the form of higher rates and fees. Somewhere along the way these loans became fairly routine and just about anyone could get them at rates that weren’t much worse than full documentation loans. These so called fog-a-mirror mortgages were a huge contributing factor in the meltdown of the real estate market. People who can’t afford to pay shouldn’t be allowed to have a loan, it seems that this logic was cast aside in the market euphoria.
Appreciation Is Not A Birthright
The cost of liquidating real estate may be as much as 10% when you factor in sales commissions, transfer taxes and other selling expenses. That means that a property has to appreciate about 10% just for you to break even on your investment. Let’s say you didn’t do your homework and paid 15% too mush when you purchased the investment. That means you will need a 25% gain just to get back to where you started. In this environment you could be waiting a very long time.
Reality
Investors need to accept the fact that a new reality is upon us. This new reality is very much like the reality of years ago. You need to make sound investment decisions and have a plan that isn’t a get-rich-quick scheme. Multitudes of people have become fabulously wealthy in real estate. They didn’t get-rich-quick, they did it the old fashioned way – hard work.
It’s true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?
Ronald Reagan

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Redfish Mark
June 9th, 2008 at 6:50 am
1Richard – nice post with several great foundational points. One key point is that real estate values throughout history have gone up and they’ve come down. The real estate market cycle is a cold reality (these days). People seem to have forgotten that all markets progress through every phase of the cycle. They seem to have forgotten that you need different strategies to invest in different phases of the market cycle (you’re right – asset values don’t go up forever). The bloodbath we’re seeing in some markets is due to folks forgetting (or never learning) the truth about cycles; but wait, spending a little time learning about how things work is part of that hard work you’re talking about……..
BawldGuy Talking
June 9th, 2008 at 11:29 am
2In my nearly four decades of real estate investment brokering/investing there’s only been one short window of time I’ve ever advised a client to purposefully get into negative cash flow.
During the 80’s when Reagan gave us 15 year depreciation schedules. This made the 5% of investors making big money pretty big winners too. Remember, back then there was no ceiling on the amount of annual depreciation used against ordinary income.
This resulted in massive increases in after tax income, and in some cases a nearly 90% reduction in income taxes paid. Their choice back then was to pay the ‘cash flow’ into the black hole of the IRS, or into an appreciating asset. This strategy produced incredible results as long as the investor was in the highest tax bracket fed & state.
Alas, this short window of time in history is indeed the exception that proves the rule. Don’t intentionally invest in negative cash flow unless you know in your heart you can turn it around quickly into some black ink.
The idea is to remain as far as you can from the cliff’s edge — not how close.
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June 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
3As far as I am concerned, buying a rental property is like starting a business. Most businesses lose money for the first few years before they build momentum, and often take large amounts of capital to survive that period. Anyone getting into the rental business needs to be prepaired to go the distance and survive that inital first few years while they are building up a portolio that will eventually pay off. Far too many new investors get into the game and dont properly estimate the commitment to the rental property business.
Staten Island Real Estate
June 9th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
4No money down mortgages were one the dumbest products lenders ever offered. They were basically lending money to people without much concern that those borrowers had nothing to loose when they decided to stop sending mortgage payments. Can you say foreclosure? Now that’s a rocket science!
Mr glass washer
June 11th, 2008 at 4:03 am
5I never undestoond why people let themselves get into 100% mortgages in the first place with lending up to 8 *s their annual income and worse. Surely this was never attractive to anyone even when the market was good.
I have to admit to a combination of luck, stubbornness and intuition when I bought my first house - just before property prices started to go up in 2000. I was never tempted to sell during the boom, and now prices are coming down its getting towards the right time for me to upgrade to a bigger place. Looking around properties at my end of the market haven’t really been hit yet and prices are still going up on my street. Get to the £300,000 range though and prices are dropping nicely, so it could be time to think about my next move and see if I can clean up again.
Oh and I also completely ignored 1 mortgage broker and one mortgage advisor during this time and I was right both times and am still feeling smug.
MoneyMan
June 14th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
6No money down = walk away mortgage. What were the lenders thinking! Actually I get guys trying to borrow 1 million + with no money down on a daily basis. Put some skin in the deal! Everyone these days wants something for nothing…and fast too!!! It’s the Mickey D mentality.
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July 15th, 2008 at 11:13 am
7I agree; easy money is gone. But, only gone for now. We have seen cycles like this before and, I’m afraid, we will see them again.
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