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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-60829</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never mind or care for how much is the foreclosures.It depends on how we select the investment field and how much efficient and strong is the trust deed.it depends on the borrower and investor!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never mind or care for how much is the foreclosures.It depends on how we select the investment field and how much efficient and strong is the trust deed.it depends on the borrower and investor!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob - st george real estate</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-58026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob - st george real estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the rising numbers of foreclosures happening I am not surprised at the court system getting involved. I don't think this will help investors as they have been able to get to people on the span of the foreclosure process. This might change the way investors go about this. 

However short sales have helped a lot of people because they did not have to have the foreclosure notice on their credit for 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the rising numbers of foreclosures happening I am not surprised at the court system getting involved. I don&#8217;t think this will help investors as they have been able to get to people on the span of the foreclosure process. This might change the way investors go about this. </p>
<p>However short sales have helped a lot of people because they did not have to have the foreclosure notice on their credit for 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sebeniecher</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-57725</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sebeniecher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a real estate investor in Charlotte, NC and I have worked on several short sale deals in the past few months and the main thing that I have learned is that the majority of the people in foreclosure, at least in Charlotte, are the uneducated low income first time homebuyers. They got loans from self motivated lenders who embellished their incomes and credit scores and the future homeowners had no idea what they were doing. When they get a foreclosure notice and receive a court date to appeal their foreclosure, they generally do one of three things. They either think it’s over and decide to move out, with no warning or forwarding address. They skip the court date, because they forgot, had to work, or just don’t care and live rent free until they are kicked out. Or, they go to the court hearing unprepared and say nothing of any relevance and lose the judgment. I find the last scenario playing out on a daily bases. A lawyer hired by the bank against and uneducated and unprepared homeowner. I will take the lawyers chances any day of the week


It’s a new day, new deal, new opportunity

Mike S. - Texo Properties </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a real estate investor in Charlotte, NC and I have worked on several short sale deals in the past few months and the main thing that I have learned is that the majority of the people in foreclosure, at least in Charlotte, are the uneducated low income first time homebuyers. They got loans from self motivated lenders who embellished their incomes and credit scores and the future homeowners had no idea what they were doing. When they get a foreclosure notice and receive a court date to appeal their foreclosure, they generally do one of three things. They either think it’s over and decide to move out, with no warning or forwarding address. They skip the court date, because they forgot, had to work, or just don’t care and live rent free until they are kicked out. Or, they go to the court hearing unprepared and say nothing of any relevance and lose the judgment. I find the last scenario playing out on a daily bases. A lawyer hired by the bank against and uneducated and unprepared homeowner. I will take the lawyers chances any day of the week</p>
<p>It’s a new day, new deal, new opportunity</p>
<p>Mike S. - Texo Properties</p>
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		<title>By: The Foreclosure Doctor</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-57720</link>
		<dc:creator>The Foreclosure Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well certainly it is interesting to see  there is change in the way foreclosures are dealt with.  Hopefully this change will be long lasting and long lasting.  I appreciate your postings  and your entire blog which has so much vital information.  Hopefully many other readers will be blessed and educated by your posts as well.

Sincerely,

The Foreclosure Doctor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well certainly it is interesting to see  there is change in the way foreclosures are dealt with.  Hopefully this change will be long lasting and long lasting.  I appreciate your postings  and your entire blog which has so much vital information.  Hopefully many other readers will be blessed and educated by your posts as well.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>The Foreclosure Doctor</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Koziol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Koziol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

It is hard to argue with your "it is more expensive" scenario as you hit the nail square on the head. Your "COMPS" remark is also right on point. You state 2011 as the possible turnaround date. Could very well be especially if more and more states adopt the go to court idea and it gets transformed into something they legislate.

Settlement conferences are wonderful tools. However, they have built in time constraints as you know. Plus, a settlement conference can be manipulated. Having said that, I need to say I realize it may be too far out for the virgin idea NY has introduced.

It is my opinion this is just the start of something we haven't even imagined. After all, court decisions become stare decisis in a hurry and, as you know, are often used as persuaders in other jurisdictions.

Do a little research in the credit arena and you'll see what may have started out as a good idea got twisted and turned and churned into something it was never intended. I think, stress think, we are seeing the first sands of what will be ground work in the foreclosure arena.

Oh yeah, the social security number - twisted, turned and churned completely out of shape. It has become the magic identifier which is a role it was never intended to play. Try getting a phone or electricity turned on without surrendering that little jewel.

Phew, I can't wait for the next installment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>It is hard to argue with your &#8220;it is more expensive&#8221; scenario as you hit the nail square on the head. Your &#8220;COMPS&#8221; remark is also right on point. You state 2011 as the possible turnaround date. Could very well be especially if more and more states adopt the go to court idea and it gets transformed into something they legislate.</p>
<p>Settlement conferences are wonderful tools. However, they have built in time constraints as you know. Plus, a settlement conference can be manipulated. Having said that, I need to say I realize it may be too far out for the virgin idea NY has introduced.</p>
<p>It is my opinion this is just the start of something we haven&#8217;t even imagined. After all, court decisions become stare decisis in a hurry and, as you know, are often used as persuaders in other jurisdictions.</p>
<p>Do a little research in the credit arena and you&#8217;ll see what may have started out as a good idea got twisted and turned and churned into something it was never intended. I think, stress think, we are seeing the first sands of what will be ground work in the foreclosure arena.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, the social security number - twisted, turned and churned completely out of shape. It has become the magic identifier which is a role it was never intended to play. Try getting a phone or electricity turned on without surrendering that little jewel.</p>
<p>Phew, I can&#8217;t wait for the next installment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Connery</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-57642</link>
		<dc:creator>James Connery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I deal with N.Y. RE Attorney's and I can say that the existing "process" is SLOW! A typical N.Y. Judicial foreclosure today, start to finish can take from 9-18 months. Adding an extra "settlement conference" step will in most cases cut to the chase. A "workout" solution will be reached, or not and the actual foreclosure turn around will be reduced.

I know of lenders who are handing out forbearance agreement like candy, only because they are not able to handle the volume of foreclosures they're already dealing with.

An example is when the bank or servicer gives an owner who is already 90 days late, a 6 month forbearance (no payments-no letters) with NO evidence that the 6 month will change the defaulting owners ability to short sell or refi or find any other solution during that period. The Banks and servicers are buying time! They are overloaded.

Remember that time is MONEY and affects the overall economy and existing home values! Every time a bank sell a property at auction for a reduced market price, or takes the property back and it sits on the market for months, finally being sold at 50% less than 2005 "value" everyone else property "value" declines! THESE ARE COMPS!

In many CA counties, as well as in other states and counties REO sales account for up to 40% of sales! These record and ARE COMPS!

Considering with the impending ALT-A as well as option ARM and PRIME melt down, with a magnitude far greater than the sub prime melt down,
we are looking at a very bad situation overall through at least 2011.

The banks need to cut there losses on the front end as fast as possible and do as many workouts as possible, because the back end after foreclosure is more costly to everyone, including toy and I.

Comments??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I deal with N.Y. RE Attorney&#8217;s and I can say that the existing &#8220;process&#8221; is SLOW! A typical N.Y. Judicial foreclosure today, start to finish can take from 9-18 months. Adding an extra &#8220;settlement conference&#8221; step will in most cases cut to the chase. A &#8220;workout&#8221; solution will be reached, or not and the actual foreclosure turn around will be reduced.</p>
<p>I know of lenders who are handing out forbearance agreement like candy, only because they are not able to handle the volume of foreclosures they&#8217;re already dealing with.</p>
<p>An example is when the bank or servicer gives an owner who is already 90 days late, a 6 month forbearance (no payments-no letters) with NO evidence that the 6 month will change the defaulting owners ability to short sell or refi or find any other solution during that period. The Banks and servicers are buying time! They are overloaded.</p>
<p>Remember that time is MONEY and affects the overall economy and existing home values! Every time a bank sell a property at auction for a reduced market price, or takes the property back and it sits on the market for months, finally being sold at 50% less than 2005 &#8220;value&#8221; everyone else property &#8220;value&#8221; declines! THESE ARE COMPS!</p>
<p>In many CA counties, as well as in other states and counties REO sales account for up to 40% of sales! These record and ARE COMPS!</p>
<p>Considering with the impending ALT-A as well as option ARM and PRIME melt down, with a magnitude far greater than the sub prime melt down,<br />
we are looking at a very bad situation overall through at least 2011.</p>
<p>The banks need to cut there losses on the front end as fast as possible and do as many workouts as possible, because the back end after foreclosure is more costly to everyone, including toy and I.</p>
<p>Comments??</p>
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		<title>By: James Connery</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/06/20/the-future-of-foreclosure-actions/#comment-57641</link>
		<dc:creator>James Connery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know N.Y. is a Judicial foreclosure state. The process is a Law Suit in effect with a complaint and answer. The part that is not often used is the traditional "settlement conference" and thats what the just of the article was about as I read it. 

The biggest problem with owners facing foreclosure is panic, denial and procrastination. The lenders have failed miserably with getting up to speed with "workouts" and offering solutions. They are simply over burdened and under staffed.

Most states have legislature as well as voluntary outreach programs with the goal of getting to the defaulting home owner as quickly as possible to see if there can be a resolution. Still, the programs are underfunded and not as far reaching as the need to be.

Everyone loosed in foreclosure and we know that! The Banks (Wall St. Investors) Hedge Funds etc. loose up to 50% of the original loan balance in many cases, so it is in everyones  best interest to look at all possible "workout" solutions.

N.Y. is suggesting that a "settlement conference" be used as is in ALL "other" Law Suits to help expedite a workout if possible. In my opinion this will speed up the process and perhaps result in some workouts that otherwise would have not even been explored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know N.Y. is a Judicial foreclosure state. The process is a Law Suit in effect with a complaint and answer. The part that is not often used is the traditional &#8220;settlement conference&#8221; and thats what the just of the article was about as I read it. </p>
<p>The biggest problem with owners facing foreclosure is panic, denial and procrastination. The lenders have failed miserably with getting up to speed with &#8220;workouts&#8221; and offering solutions. They are simply over burdened and under staffed.</p>
<p>Most states have legislature as well as voluntary outreach programs with the goal of getting to the defaulting home owner as quickly as possible to see if there can be a resolution. Still, the programs are underfunded and not as far reaching as the need to be.</p>
<p>Everyone loosed in foreclosure and we know that! The Banks (Wall St. Investors) Hedge Funds etc. loose up to 50% of the original loan balance in many cases, so it is in everyones  best interest to look at all possible &#8220;workout&#8221; solutions.</p>
<p>N.Y. is suggesting that a &#8220;settlement conference&#8221; be used as is in ALL &#8220;other&#8221; Law Suits to help expedite a workout if possible. In my opinion this will speed up the process and perhaps result in some workouts that otherwise would have not even been explored.</p>
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