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	<title>Comments on: FEDS BAIL OUT FANNIE AND FREDDIE; EMERGENCY MEASURES TAKEN</title>
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		<title>By: Cliff Pape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Pape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an economist it would be nice to let markets take care of themselves.  However, with regards to Freddie and Fannie tough love would be dumb love.  People who promote the government not stepping in to help Freddie and Fannie really do not understand global financial markets.  Anyone who understands global financial markets is pushing the federal government to step in and stay the course to ensure we do not have a global financial market crisis.

A side note would be for real estate investors.  It would behoove any real estate investor to research the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980’s.  The government is taking similar actions as it did then.  The bailout is a bailout because everyone realizes that the securities that the government will be purchasing in exchange to fund banks will virtually be worthless.  Just like they where in the Bear Stearns deal.  So the government buys assets they ultimately know will fail.  Once the assets (i.e. government owned real estate) fail they will be auctioned off at substantial discounts.  What all this means is that savvy investors stand to make millions on the soon to come government bail out(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an economist it would be nice to let markets take care of themselves.  However, with regards to Freddie and Fannie tough love would be dumb love.  People who promote the government not stepping in to help Freddie and Fannie really do not understand global financial markets.  Anyone who understands global financial markets is pushing the federal government to step in and stay the course to ensure we do not have a global financial market crisis.</p>
<p>A side note would be for real estate investors.  It would behoove any real estate investor to research the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980’s.  The government is taking similar actions as it did then.  The bailout is a bailout because everyone realizes that the securities that the government will be purchasing in exchange to fund banks will virtually be worthless.  Just like they where in the Bear Stearns deal.  So the government buys assets they ultimately know will fail.  Once the assets (i.e. government owned real estate) fail they will be auctioned off at substantial discounts.  What all this means is that savvy investors stand to make millions on the soon to come government bail out(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the insider shares sold off in Jan 2008 --over $4.2 million by directors.  Now we&#039;re bailing THEM out???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the insider shares sold off in Jan 2008 &#8211;over $4.2 million by directors.  Now we&#8217;re bailing THEM out???</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Dorkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The market reaction so far is definitely much better then I expected.  Lets see how things progress as we go forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market reaction so far is definitely much better then I expected.  Lets see how things progress as we go forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin - Buying Florida Property</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin - Buying Florida Property</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brock&#039;s points - and anything so large is difficult for the private sector to control efficiently, let alone big government.  At the time of writing, the Dow Jones reaction seems to indicate initial relief in the markets, so maybe the businesses can be broken up when things settle down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brock&#8217;s points &#8211; and anything so large is difficult for the private sector to control efficiently, let alone big government.  At the time of writing, the Dow Jones reaction seems to indicate initial relief in the markets, so maybe the businesses can be broken up when things settle down.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my point with #1 was that Fannie and Freddie have always been socialists masquerading as capitalists. So, no change, really, it&#039;s just that the mask has slipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my point with #1 was that Fannie and Freddie have always been socialists masquerading as capitalists. So, no change, really, it&#8217;s just that the mask has slipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple thoughts:

1. Freddie &amp; Fannie are too big, and the government has allowed them to be implicitly guaranteed too long. That should never have happened. They should have been broken up into smaller companies and the Fed should have made it abundantly clear that no special treatment would be available.

But while true, the above is water under the bridge. It can&#039;t be fixed now. It should have been fixed years ago, but no recent Congress or Administration has shown that kind of foresight or leadership.

2. A bailout is &quot;money without payback.&quot; It&#039;s just a check. The above is either a loan or a equity dilution. Loans have to be paid back. Equity, once diluted, must be purchased back to regain equity.

One must presume that the Fed would unload any equity position into the market once the crisis has passed. It&#039;s not a perfect solution, but none of the good choices are available to us now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple thoughts:</p>
<p>1. Freddie &amp; Fannie are too big, and the government has allowed them to be implicitly guaranteed too long. That should never have happened. They should have been broken up into smaller companies and the Fed should have made it abundantly clear that no special treatment would be available.</p>
<p>But while true, the above is water under the bridge. It can&#8217;t be fixed now. It should have been fixed years ago, but no recent Congress or Administration has shown that kind of foresight or leadership.</p>
<p>2. A bailout is &#8220;money without payback.&#8221; It&#8217;s just a check. The above is either a loan or a equity dilution. Loans have to be paid back. Equity, once diluted, must be purchased back to regain equity.</p>
<p>One must presume that the Fed would unload any equity position into the market once the crisis has passed. It&#8217;s not a perfect solution, but none of the good choices are available to us now.</p>
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