Comments on: Hedging The Real Estate Market A Must For Investors http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/ Learn, Network, Invest Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:37:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: James Phohttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-59211 James Pho Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:04:36 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-59211 I heard the same thing from another real estate speaker (George Antone or Antoine) years ago. I thought it was interesting but never did anything about it! He also covered other ideas on hedging real estate downturns - I wish I took better notes! I heard the same thing from another real estate speaker (George Antone or Antoine) years ago. I thought it was interesting but never did anything about it! He also covered other ideas on hedging real estate downturns – I wish I took better notes!

]]> By: Cliff Papehttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58684 Cliff Pape Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:45:41 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58684 No problem, I look forward to your future post. No problem, I look forward to your future post.

]]> By: Rob K. Blakehttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58557 Rob K. Blake Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:02:58 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58557 Solution Drew:Thanks pal...I just wish I was writing for BiggerPockets back in Aug 2006, so I could have shared each trade as I made them.Of course, back then when Jim Cramer (Mad Money) was advising everyone in the opposite direction...maybe folks here would have been as dismissive to my hedging with LEAPS as those seminar attendees.Who knows...it would have been an interesting experiment.Thanks again, RKB Solution Drew:

Thanks pal…I just wish I was writing for BiggerPockets back in Aug 2006, so I could have shared each trade as I made them.

Of course, back then when Jim Cramer (Mad Money) was advising everyone in the opposite direction…maybe folks here would have been as dismissive to my hedging with LEAPS as those seminar attendees.

Who knows…it would have been an interesting experiment.

Thanks again,
RKB

]]> By: "Solution Drew"http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58551 "Solution Drew" Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:48:28 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58551 With the market as volatile as it is, this information is like gold.It's refreshing to see some in depth content rather than just a "scratch the surface" type blog.Kudos to you on this. With the market as volatile as it is, this information is like gold.

It’s refreshing to see some in depth content rather than just a “scratch the surface” type blog.

Kudos to you on this.

]]> By: Rob K. Blakehttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58549 Rob K. Blake Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:44:33 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58549 Gather,Private real estate investors are mostly "1-off" real estate acquisition specialist...myself included.A bulk purchase is not something I or most REI I know would be interested in...and here's why...We all know it only takes 1 bad apple to spoil the bunch. Every REI worth his salt has a story about the 1 deal that almost (or did) sunk him.The bank is not in the business of giving away money...so the assumption is their is at least 1 bad apple in the bunch...and probably a lot more.As a matter of fact, I'm not sure I could find a corporate investor for such a sale given the fact they'd want them knowing the "spoilage" was high at so far below market...the bank wouldn't be interested.You'd be better off optioning each one...one at a time...and finding individuals to buy them from you. That way you could do the due diligence necessary to weed out the bad ones. You'd be adding value...always a good thing.Good Luck with that...RKB Gather,

Private real estate investors are mostly “1-off” real estate acquisition specialist…myself included.

A bulk purchase is not something I or most REI I know would be interested in…and here’s why…

We all know it only takes 1 bad apple to spoil the bunch. Every REI worth his salt has a story about the 1 deal that almost (or did) sunk him.

The bank is not in the business of giving away money…so the assumption is their is at least 1 bad apple in the bunch…and probably a lot more.

As a matter of fact, I’m not sure I could find a corporate investor for such a sale given the fact they’d want them knowing the “spoilage” was high at so far below market…the bank wouldn’t be interested.

You’d be better off optioning each one…one at a time…and finding individuals to buy them from you. That way you could do the due diligence necessary to weed out the bad ones. You’d be adding value…always a good thing.

Good Luck with that…

RKB

]]> By: Gathererhttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58542 Gatherer Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:55:06 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58542 Rob you seem to definitely be in the know regarding the current state of Real Estate. I would like to pose a question to you and the forum. Are there investors out there looking to make bulk REO purchases? I have been with a company for the past 6 months that acquires product in bulk for investors. I have spent countless hours forging relationships with the big banks only to find once I have the product the investors can't follow through. Any advice you can give on finding "real investors" for this sort of thing? Rob you seem to definitely be in the know regarding the current state of Real Estate. I would like to pose a question to you and the forum. Are there investors out there looking to make bulk REO purchases? I have been with a company for the past 6 months that acquires product in bulk for investors. I have spent countless hours forging relationships with the big banks only to find once I have the product the investors can’t follow through. Any advice you can give on finding “real investors” for this sort of thing?

]]> By: Rob K. Blakehttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58535 Rob K. Blake Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:02:05 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58535 Hunter: I'm not sure what post you read...but this post certainly did endorse "get rich quick" or "short term high yield investments.It did however give a technique to "get rich slow" long-term professional income property owners to protect the equity positions they have in those long-term hold properties.Cliff: Thanks for stopping by...finally at least one person is not looking at me like I'm an alien from outer space...lol! Hunter: I’m not sure what post you read…but this post certainly did endorse “get rich quick” or “short term high yield investments.

It did however give a technique to “get rich slow” long-term professional income property owners to protect the equity positions they have in those long-term hold properties.

Cliff: Thanks for stopping by…finally at least one person is not looking at me like I’m an alien from outer space…lol!

]]> By: Cliff Papehttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58528 Cliff Pape Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:15:21 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58528 Excellent, Excellent, Excellent! This post is for every sophisticated real estate investor. As an economist and finance professional this is a must read. I don’t know this guy but, he is smart and understands markets and finance. Excellent, Excellent, Excellent! This post is for every sophisticated real estate investor. As an economist and finance professional this is a must read. I don’t know this guy but, he is smart and understands markets and finance.

]]> By: Hunterhttp://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/20/hedging-the-real-estate-market-a-must-for-investors/#comment-58526 Hunter Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:46:52 +0000 http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1118#comment-58526 That's about right--we (as Americans) have become complacent and used to our luxuries. When will we learn that these "get rich quick" schemes and short term high yield investments won't solve our problems at the end of the day? That’s about right–we (as Americans) have become complacent and used to our luxuries. When will we learn that these “get rich quick” schemes and short term high yield investments won’t solve our problems at the end of the day?

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