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	<title>Comments on: The Neediest Get Hurt The Most In Mortgage Crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/07/23/the-neediest-get-hurt-the-most-in-mortgage-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-59332</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was the neediest that were being helped in the first place.
Sub-prime is not a cut of meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the neediest that were being helped in the first place.<br />
Sub-prime is not a cut of meat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, but the ability to afford your mortgage payments each month is a separate issue from the value of the house changing.   At least it should be in a common sense world.  Most of the &quot;Billions&quot; being lost by homeowners these days were never real to begin with, and for people who took on a mortgage with no real down payment, they never owned the place to begin with, so they aren&#039;t the ones losing.  

If loans had been restricted to people who could actually make the payments, home prices would not have skyrocketed like they did and we would be much better off all around.

But no, the mortgage, financial and real-estate interests structured everything so they could take their commissions, and pass the default risk on to someone else by severing all connection with the long-term performance of the loan.  This to me is the fundamental problem of all of this mortgage securitization scheme.  Each party in the lending process needs to retain some liability in case the mortgage payments are not made. That way they would have something to counter their greed motivation that dominated the last 5-6 years or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but the ability to afford your mortgage payments each month is a separate issue from the value of the house changing.   At least it should be in a common sense world.  Most of the &#8220;Billions&#8221; being lost by homeowners these days were never real to begin with, and for people who took on a mortgage with no real down payment, they never owned the place to begin with, so they aren&#8217;t the ones losing.  </p>
<p>If loans had been restricted to people who could actually make the payments, home prices would not have skyrocketed like they did and we would be much better off all around.</p>
<p>But no, the mortgage, financial and real-estate interests structured everything so they could take their commissions, and pass the default risk on to someone else by severing all connection with the long-term performance of the loan.  This to me is the fundamental problem of all of this mortgage securitization scheme.  Each party in the lending process needs to retain some liability in case the mortgage payments are not made. That way they would have something to counter their greed motivation that dominated the last 5-6 years or so.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brock -

What does buying into a bubble matter if you live in your home long enough to pay off the mortgage?  Those intending to flip got what they deserved, but a bubble doesn&#039;t matter to a long-term homeowner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brock -</p>
<p>What does buying into a bubble matter if you live in your home long enough to pay off the mortgage?  Those intending to flip got what they deserved, but a bubble doesn&#8217;t matter to a long-term homeowner.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the opinion of Robert Sheridan, the CEO of Sheridan &amp; Partners, a Chicago real estate &amp; development company. 

Not All Financial Woes Are Created Equal
The failure of Indymac Bank – according to The New York Times the largest lender to fail in more than two decades – can be laid squarely at the feet of the lax (or nearly non-existent) underwriting that is part of (a big part of) the sub-prime mess. The chickens simply came home to roost.

The troubles of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are quite different.  Freddie and Fannie underwrote loans carefully; their difficulties are a result of the unprecedented decline of home values. 

In 2006, going against the conventional wisdom that single-family home prices never decline (they might stop rising for awhile, but they never decline), we predicted that single-family prices could decrease 10 to 20 percent.  Painfully, that forecast turned out to be very correct – but also optimistic.  We’re in a cycle now in which housing declines already are greater than at any time since the Great Depression of the 30s. And we’re not at the bottom yet.

If you don’t want to be disappointed by housing performance in the near term, disregard forecasts that the bottom is just around the corner – unless that corner is in Timbuktu.  The bottom is NOT coming soon.  And when it does arrive, it will not be obvious, like the bottom in the chart of the DJIA.  The housing “bottom” will become apparent only in the rear-view mirror, when you realize that prices have stopped falling.  Don’t expect a sharp rebound. 

We will stay at the bottom for quite a while. How long that lasts will vary, as always, market-by-market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the opinion of Robert Sheridan, the CEO of Sheridan &amp; Partners, a Chicago real estate &amp; development company. </p>
<p>Not All Financial Woes Are Created Equal<br />
The failure of Indymac Bank – according to The New York Times the largest lender to fail in more than two decades – can be laid squarely at the feet of the lax (or nearly non-existent) underwriting that is part of (a big part of) the sub-prime mess. The chickens simply came home to roost.</p>
<p>The troubles of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are quite different.  Freddie and Fannie underwrote loans carefully; their difficulties are a result of the unprecedented decline of home values. </p>
<p>In 2006, going against the conventional wisdom that single-family home prices never decline (they might stop rising for awhile, but they never decline), we predicted that single-family prices could decrease 10 to 20 percent.  Painfully, that forecast turned out to be very correct – but also optimistic.  We’re in a cycle now in which housing declines already are greater than at any time since the Great Depression of the 30s. And we’re not at the bottom yet.</p>
<p>If you don’t want to be disappointed by housing performance in the near term, disregard forecasts that the bottom is just around the corner – unless that corner is in Timbuktu.  The bottom is NOT coming soon.  And when it does arrive, it will not be obvious, like the bottom in the chart of the DJIA.  The housing “bottom” will become apparent only in the rear-view mirror, when you realize that prices have stopped falling.  Don’t expect a sharp rebound. </p>
<p>We will stay at the bottom for quite a while. How long that lasts will vary, as always, market-by-market.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Magnus &#187; Odds and Ends 9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Magnus &#187; Odds and Ends 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a great commentary on the impact of the subprime and mortgage crises on minority communities. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much sympathy here. Anyone who buys into an obvious bubble will reap what they sow. Anyone who thinks that an asset whose price doesn&#039;t move from decade to decade can suddenly and irreversibly appreciate 10% per year ad infinitum is a fool.

The article&#039;s protagonist should have been a renter these last several years. You gotta live somewhere, but that doesn&#039;t mean you have to buy.

And the American dream is still there. It&#039;s about opportunity and freedom, and it&#039;s still around today. For all of us, including the lady in the article. It&#039;s too bad she used that freedom to make serious mistakes, but that&#039;s the price of freedom (that and vigilance).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much sympathy here. Anyone who buys into an obvious bubble will reap what they sow. Anyone who thinks that an asset whose price doesn&#8217;t move from decade to decade can suddenly and irreversibly appreciate 10% per year ad infinitum is a fool.</p>
<p>The article&#8217;s protagonist should have been a renter these last several years. You gotta live somewhere, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you have to buy.</p>
<p>And the American dream is still there. It&#8217;s about opportunity and freedom, and it&#8217;s still around today. For all of us, including the lady in the article. It&#8217;s too bad she used that freedom to make serious mistakes, but that&#8217;s the price of freedom (that and vigilance).</p>
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		<title>By: LimbaughSucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>LimbaughSucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And YES the LENDER targeted and TEMPTED (SHE) every chance they got.
There are SO many factors to this mess and I could argue my own post above with ease. So, grain of salt here folks... And another cup of coffee for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And YES the LENDER targeted and TEMPTED (SHE) every chance they got.<br />
There are SO many factors to this mess and I could argue my own post above with ease. So, grain of salt here folks&#8230; And another cup of coffee for me!</p>
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