<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Who is Better for the Real Estate Market: McCain or Obama?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/</link> <description>Learn, Network, Invest</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:37:50 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: LT</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59838</link> <dc:creator>LT</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59838</guid> <description>I thought we were talking about Real Estate Investing here?  There are so many variables in this business that it really depends on what your strategy is.  The only way to address the original question is to make some assumptions about what the candidates will actually do.  Here are my assumptions and an estimation of their impact on parts of the real estate market.- Obama will pass a national healthcare plan.  McCain will pass a big tax cut to offset premiums.* Obama helps retail and commercial investors by lowering their customer&#039;s healthcare costs and freeing up capital for expansion.  McCain helps residential, middle income, because most renters will see that as extra money that they can use to increase their spending.- McCain will allow his party to continue its crackdown on illegal immigrants.  Obama&#039;s policies will be more lax in its enforcement measures.*Bad for residential investors because of increased background check requirements.  Especially bad for low-income landlords who currently rent to undocumented workers because of early lease terminations, damage from ICE raids, longer apartment turn around, etc.  Retail property investors in low income areas will also suffer because of secondary effects on local merchants.- Obama will bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan sooner than McCain will.*Good for anyone who invests in properties near military bases.- McCain will pass an energy plan that increases domestic oil production more aggressively than Obama&#039;s plan.*McCain is better for investors in areas like the Gulf Coast, Southwest, TX, OK, and AK.- Obama will pass an energy plan that will increase development of alternative energy more aggressively than McCain.*Obama is better for investors in research hubs and high-tech manufacturing areas like Northern CA, Research Triangle NC, Boston/Cambridge MA, Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, etc.Also, better for light industrial RE investors- McCain will lower income taxes for upper income tax payers and keep taxes on capital gains where they are.*Better for RE investors who take lots of profits after depreciation, expenses, etc.  Also good for investors who have S-Corps or whose RE income is taxed as regular income (100% equity and such)Also good for investors in luxury residential and retail properties.- Obama will make it easier for young people to attend college through increased education subsidies.*Obama beats McCain if you invest in near-campus housing and retail properties.- McCain will increase the exception amount for the inheritance/death tax.*Good for RE investors who care (die).- Obama will eliminate tax liability on social security income and expand the minimum tax threshold for very low income individuals.*Better for low income and section 8 residential investors.- Obama will increase regulation of the mortgage industry more than McCain will.*Obama will make it harder for RE investors to obtain financing for small properties which is bad for small residential investors.  However, this is good for large residential investors because all things being equal, rents go up when its harder to qualify for a mortgage.- Obama will expand worker&#039;s rights such as FMLA, Paid-Leave requirements, etc.Worse for retail RE investors because tenants costs increase.  Better for residential because tenants income is more reliable.Overall, I think Obama is better for most RE investors who  are not expecting to cash out and take profits anytime soon, especially those who specialize in residential RE along the east and west coasts and in low-income areas.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we were talking about Real Estate Investing here?  There are so many variables in this business that it really depends on what your strategy is.  The only way to address the original question is to make some assumptions about what the candidates will actually do.  Here are my assumptions and an estimation of their impact on parts of the real estate market.</p><p>- Obama will pass a national healthcare plan.  McCain will pass a big tax cut to offset premiums.</p><p>* Obama helps retail and commercial investors by lowering their customer&#8217;s healthcare costs and freeing up capital for expansion.  McCain helps residential, middle income, because most renters will see that as extra money that they can use to increase their spending.</p><p>- McCain will allow his party to continue its crackdown on illegal immigrants.  Obama&#8217;s policies will be more lax in its enforcement measures.</p><p>*Bad for residential investors because of increased background check requirements.  Especially bad for low-income landlords who currently rent to undocumented workers because of early lease terminations, damage from ICE raids, longer apartment turn around, etc.  Retail property investors in low income areas will also suffer because of secondary effects on local merchants.</p><p>- Obama will bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan sooner than McCain will.</p><p>*Good for anyone who invests in properties near military bases.</p><p>- McCain will pass an energy plan that increases domestic oil production more aggressively than Obama&#8217;s plan.</p><p>*McCain is better for investors in areas like the Gulf Coast, Southwest, TX, OK, and AK.</p><p>- Obama will pass an energy plan that will increase development of alternative energy more aggressively than McCain.</p><p>*Obama is better for investors in research hubs and high-tech manufacturing areas like Northern CA, Research Triangle NC, Boston/Cambridge MA, Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, etc.</p><p>Also, better for light industrial RE investors</p><p>- McCain will lower income taxes for upper income tax payers and keep taxes on capital gains where they are.</p><p>*Better for RE investors who take lots of profits after depreciation, expenses, etc.  Also good for investors who have S-Corps or whose RE income is taxed as regular income (100% equity and such)</p><p>Also good for investors in luxury residential and retail properties.</p><p>- Obama will make it easier for young people to attend college through increased education subsidies.</p><p>*Obama beats McCain if you invest in near-campus housing and retail properties.</p><p>- McCain will increase the exception amount for the inheritance/death tax.</p><p>*Good for RE investors who care (die).</p><p>- Obama will eliminate tax liability on social security income and expand the minimum tax threshold for very low income individuals.</p><p>*Better for low income and section 8 residential investors.</p><p>- Obama will increase regulation of the mortgage industry more than McCain will.</p><p>*Obama will make it harder for RE investors to obtain financing for small properties which is bad for small residential investors.  However, this is good for large residential investors because all things being equal, rents go up when its harder to qualify for a mortgage.</p><p>- Obama will expand worker&#8217;s rights such as FMLA, Paid-Leave requirements, etc.</p><p>Worse for retail RE investors because tenants costs increase.  Better for residential because tenants income is more reliable.</p><p>Overall, I think Obama is better for most RE investors who  are not expecting to cash out and take profits anytime soon, especially those who specialize in residential RE along the east and west coasts and in low-income areas.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel Bates</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59820</link> <dc:creator>Daniel Bates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59820</guid> <description>McCain&#039;s policies will benefit the American real estate market and economy as a whole better.  More money in the peoples&#039; hands to choose what they want to do with it will take us out of this slump.  I also think McCain has enough sense to know when things don&#039;t need &quot;fixing&quot; and just need time.  Obama will say anything to make people happy, he&#039;d poor billions of tax dollars into the market if he thought it would make him more popular.  McCain knows that a more natural healing of the economy is the way it must occur.  We need to stop bailing out every irresponsible business and person, if they screwed up, let them pay the price.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s policies will benefit the American real estate market and economy as a whole better.  More money in the peoples&#8217; hands to choose what they want to do with it will take us out of this slump.  I also think McCain has enough sense to know when things don&#8217;t need &#8220;fixing&#8221; and just need time.  Obama will say anything to make people happy, he&#8217;d poor billions of tax dollars into the market if he thought it would make him more popular.  McCain knows that a more natural healing of the economy is the way it must occur.  We need to stop bailing out every irresponsible business and person, if they screwed up, let them pay the price.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nadine</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59775</link> <dc:creator>Nadine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59775</guid> <description>@John Corey I totally agree with you. We better to vote with our heart but on the other side keep focusing on our REI success. Who role maybe will affect the economic situation, but we are the one who can decide our own succes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Corey<br /> I totally agree with you. We better to vote with our heart but on the other side keep focusing on our REI success. Who role maybe will affect the economic situation, but we are the one who can decide our own succes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Corey</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59770</link> <dc:creator>John Corey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:01:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59770</guid> <description>Is History Siding With Obama’s Economic Plan? A NY Times article that looks at the economy under Democrats vs. Republican Presidents since WWII based on research by a university professor. http://tinyurl.com/5ch7d8From the article: &quot;The two Great Partisan Divides [growth rates, equality] combine to suggest that, if history is a guide, an Obama victory in November would lead to faster economic growth with less inequality, while a McCain victory would lead to slower economic growth with more inequality.&quot;  The data covers the period since WWII with multiple Presidents and world economic conditions. The article is also clear that the President does not have that much direct control as mostly is comes down to the Congress.There is a hidden message for RE investors in the article. The people at or above the 95th percentile in terms of income have come out largely the same over the years since WWII. Their income and their decisions has left them largely immune from what ever party win the election.If you are a RE investor and you are successful (or will be successful) then you can rise about the economy effect. You might care deeply about the other issues one party or another  focuses on but it should not be a vote based on economics.Vote with your heart if you like. Focus on you REI success if you want to make a difference in your life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is History Siding With Obama’s Economic Plan?<br /> A NY Times article that looks at the economy under Democrats vs. Republican Presidents since WWII based on research by a university professor.<br /> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5ch7d8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5ch7d8</a></p><p>From the article:<br /> &#8220;The two Great Partisan Divides [growth rates, equality] combine to suggest that, if history is a guide, an Obama victory in November would lead to faster economic growth with less inequality, while a McCain victory would lead to slower economic growth with more inequality.&#8221;  The data covers the period since WWII with multiple Presidents and world economic conditions. The article is also clear that the President does not have that much direct control as mostly is comes down to the Congress.</p><p>There is a hidden message for RE investors in the article. The people at or above the 95th percentile in terms of income have come out largely the same over the years since WWII. Their income and their decisions has left them largely immune from what ever party win the election.</p><p>If you are a RE investor and you are successful (or will be successful) then you can rise about the economy effect. You might care deeply about the other issues one party or another  focuses on but it should not be a vote based on economics.</p><p>Vote with your heart if you like. Focus on you REI success if you want to make a difference in your life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kermit from Minneapolis Homes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59683</link> <dc:creator>Kermit from Minneapolis Homes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59683</guid> <description>The policies of both candidates will eventually ruin the economy. Sure, maybe they have some band-aids that will help them get elected.Both are gutless politicians who will do nothing to drive down the huge national debt.  We will keep borrowing money from Saudi Arabia and China to pay for this stupid war.  Your grandchildren will be saddled with such a massive debt that it staggers the imagination.If you think Obama will pull us totally out of mideast affairs, you are sadly mistaken.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The policies of both candidates will eventually ruin the economy. Sure, maybe they have some band-aids that will help them get elected.</p><p>Both are gutless politicians who will do nothing to drive down the huge national debt.  We will keep borrowing money from Saudi Arabia and China to pay for this stupid war.  Your grandchildren will be saddled with such a massive debt that it staggers the imagination.</p><p>If you think Obama will pull us totally out of mideast affairs, you are sadly mistaken.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59674</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:10:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59674</guid> <description>I think Obama&#039;s efforts to shore up the personal economy of most wage earners will be better for the economy than McCain&#039;s likely focus on benefits tilted toward high wage earners.High wage earners, under any president, will find ways to invest profitably (i.e. capture business profits from the large number of working folks).Republican economic policies have drained expendable income and savings from the average worker and concentrated wealth among a small percentage of the population. That is bad for business.  It&#039;s tough selling anything, property, services, etc. when the great majority of people are cash strapped.I&#039;m for good paying jobs in America. I can&#039;t sell a rehab to the few wealthy people in town nor to a Chinese factory worker. So, I think the Democrats&#039; posture on everything except capital gains will be a plus for me and my business (except at tax time!). But, hey, there&#039;s no sense in wanting a good America without being willing to pay for it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama&#8217;s efforts to shore up the personal economy of most wage earners will be better for the economy than McCain&#8217;s likely focus on benefits tilted toward high wage earners.</p><p>High wage earners, under any president, will find ways to invest profitably (i.e. capture business profits from the large number of working folks).</p><p>Republican economic policies have drained expendable income and savings from the average worker and concentrated wealth among a small percentage of the population. That is bad for business.  It&#8217;s tough selling anything, property, services, etc. when the great majority of people are cash strapped.</p><p>I&#8217;m for good paying jobs in America. I can&#8217;t sell a rehab to the few wealthy people in town nor to a Chinese factory worker. So, I think the Democrats&#8217; posture on everything except capital gains will be a plus for me and my business (except at tax time!). But, hey, there&#8217;s no sense in wanting a good America without being willing to pay for it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: B. A.  Ckitup</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59673</link> <dc:creator>B. A.  Ckitup</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:14:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59673</guid> <description>I believe Barack Obama will be better for the real estate market.Reasons:Reading Obama&#039;s plan on his website (which I assume is rare on this board, given the comments) he is basically going to help the homeowner (especially low income homeowners) that are struggling and prevent future foreclosures and market meltdowns by implementing smart safety-nets and needed regulation.McCain on the other hand has no plan on his website that addresses the real estate market and home owners that are suffering specifically, that I could find.  So, ultimately, based on his light economic plans that are present, it seems that his fiscal policies are the same policies employed for that past 20 years (more de-regulation and corporate tax cuts) that create these economic environments like we&#039;re currently in.  Lastly,  two quotes I would like share.  Guess who said them:1.) &quot;The issue of economics is not something I&#039;ve understood as well as I should.&quot;2.) &quot;I wish inflation was zero.&quot;Give up....     John McCain.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Barack Obama will be better for the real estate market.</p><p>Reasons:</p><p>Reading Obama&#8217;s plan on his website (which I assume is rare on this board, given the comments) he is basically going to help the homeowner (especially low income homeowners) that are struggling and prevent future foreclosures and market meltdowns by implementing smart safety-nets and needed regulation.</p><p>McCain on the other hand has no plan on his website that addresses the real estate market and home owners that are suffering specifically, that I could find.  So, ultimately, based on his light economic plans that are present, it seems that his fiscal policies are the same policies employed for that past 20 years (more de-regulation and corporate tax cuts) that create these economic environments like we&#8217;re currently in.  Lastly,  two quotes I would like share.  Guess who said them:</p><p>1.) &#8220;The issue of economics is not something I&#8217;ve understood as well as I should.&#8221;</p><p>2.) &#8220;I wish inflation was zero.&#8221;</p><p>Give up&#8230;.     John McCain.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: No Name</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59670</link> <dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59670</guid> <description>My vote is to Mr. McCain. I really hate the topics of politics but I wanted share my vote with you ;) Barack Obama sometime is very arrogant.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote is to Mr. McCain. I really hate the topics of politics but I wanted share my vote with you <img src='http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Barack Obama sometime is very arrogant.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rehab702</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59665</link> <dc:creator>Rehab702</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:00:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59665</guid> <description>Interesting VP choice by McCain.  Certainly a grab for the Hillary supporters, but her lack of real experience could be a problem.  I agree with those who have said the economy will take care of itself, but economic policy will have an impact.  I am definitely middle of the road and my choice does center around economic issues.  It is interesting to see how the Obama supporters are trying to make McCain seem like GWB, but the right wing seems to think of him as a democrat.  At this point I definitely think that McCain will be better for real estate investors, with everything else?  Who knows.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting VP choice by McCain.  Certainly a grab for the Hillary supporters, but her lack of real experience could be a problem.  I agree with those who have said the economy will take care of itself, but economic policy will have an impact.  I am definitely middle of the road and my choice does center around economic issues.  It is interesting to see how the Obama supporters are trying to make McCain seem like GWB, but the right wing seems to think of him as a democrat.  At this point I definitely think that McCain will be better for real estate investors, with everything else?  Who knows.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harper</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59662</link> <dc:creator>Harper</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:12:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59662</guid> <description>Job creation drives the real estate industry here (and everywhere else). The candidate whose economic plan creates the most jobs will do the most to help real estate recover. In his acceptance speech, Obama said he wants to invest in infrastructure repairs -- upgrading roads and bridges, renovating water and sewer systems. These are good paying  jobs that, as he said, cannot be shipped abroad. It will be interesting to see what McCain says on the same subject.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Job creation drives the real estate industry here (and everywhere else). The candidate whose economic plan creates the most jobs will do the most to help real estate recover. In his acceptance speech, Obama said he wants to invest in infrastructure repairs &#8212; upgrading roads and bridges, renovating water and sewer systems. These are good paying  jobs that, as he said, cannot be shipped abroad. It will be interesting to see what McCain says on the same subject.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Dorkin</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59660</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:00:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59660</guid> <description>What saddens me is that so far there are many comments on the subject, but hardly anyone has had an intelligent thing to say.  Everything here is partisan drivel.  Does anyone actually take the time to inform themselves, or are we all voting based on party?There&#039;s got to be some folks out there who have taken the time to learn about the policies of the two people who would be president.  Anyone?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What saddens me is that so far there are many comments on the subject, but hardly anyone has had an intelligent thing to say.  Everything here is partisan drivel.  Does anyone actually take the time to inform themselves, or are we all voting based on party?</p><p>There&#8217;s got to be some folks out there who have taken the time to learn about the policies of the two people who would be president.  Anyone?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric W. Gage</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/08/28/who-is-better-for-the-real-estate-market-mccain-or-obama/#comment-59659</link> <dc:creator>Eric W. Gage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1236#comment-59659</guid> <description>I would have to say McCain would be the better advocate for the Real Estate Industry!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say McCain would be the better advocate for the Real Estate Industry!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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