<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: A Solution That Works</title> <atom:link href="http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/</link> <description>Learn, Network, Invest</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:57:56 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: dataminer</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-62394</link> <dc:creator>dataminer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:59:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-62394</guid> <description>This is a time of crisis that must be met with a cool and level head and no more business as usual based soley on greed. There is a solution which will help some without the bailout called temporary seller financing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a time of crisis that must be met with a cool and level head and no more business as usual based soley on greed. There is a solution which will help some without the bailout called temporary seller financing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Credit rapide</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-61316</link> <dc:creator>Credit rapide</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:36:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-61316</guid> <description>I think this plan is good. Technically, by increasing autonomous investment, you benefit from the multiplier effet and therefore increase you GDP by more than your investment. This is basic microeconomics.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this plan is good. Technically, by increasing autonomous investment, you benefit from the multiplier effet and therefore increase you GDP by more than your investment. This is basic microeconomics.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fred Ashley</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-61206</link> <dc:creator>Fred Ashley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-61206</guid> <description>Rescuing the Bailout A Real Estate/Mortgage Broker&#039;s perspective... (excerpt from a article I wrote)Stabilizing housing prices is widely accepted by most economists as the best way to solve the lingering recession and potential depression. Using the same $700 billion dollars, most of the current and pending foreclosures in the country could be avoided utilizing more practical rather than political strategies. If the past is prologue, by funding a Homeowners Refinance Act, similar to the one used during the Great Depression, we could multiply the effectiveness of the current Bailout Plan. However, this time mortgages could be made to homeowner’s in a subordinate lien position.For example, banks could be given a profitable alternative to foreclosure by modifying the amount of their nonperforming mortgages to 80% of the properties current value with a new manageable fixed rate and payment terms. The incentive would be realized by distributing a 10% cash payoff to any existing lien holders in exchange for a 20% lien on the homeowner’s property. As a former mortgage and real estate broker that currently negotiates discounted mortgage payoffs, I can confidently say that most banks would prefer this strategy to foreclosure.Simultaneously attacking the growing surplus of available homes, similar lending standards could be available to individuals interested in purchasing a home. The underlining political dilemma of making this “bailout” fair and profitable could be presented in the following manner: Participating individuals would lose their ability to receive tax credits for the interest paid towards their primary mortgage. Instead, that amount would be credited towards the 20% lien held by the government. With the average mortgage being less than $250,000, over 20 million homes could be saved or purchased using the same $700 billion. Systematically, this would significantly lower mortgage payments, increasing household cash flow, thus directly stimulating the economy through more consumer buying power.Increasing real buying power as opposed to the borrowing power that some economic strategist call “tackling the credit freeze”, is a better long-term approach to maintaining a productive economy.After acknowledging that the major investment banks who masked these mortgage-backed securities for so many years have either failed or converted to more regulated entities, the inappropriately inflated investor confidence is the only other major intangible deficiency plaguing the current financial crisis. The Bailout appears to be more focused on re-inflating that confidence than dealing with the catalyst causing the deflation. By identifying better alternatives, it is fair to say that the timing, magnitude and methodology of the Bailout Plan do not proportionately reflect its intended objective of immediately stabilizing the economy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rescuing the Bailout<br /> A Real Estate/Mortgage Broker&#8217;s perspective&#8230; (excerpt from a article I wrote)</p><p>Stabilizing housing prices is widely accepted by most economists as the best way to solve the lingering recession and potential depression. Using the same $700 billion dollars, most of the current and pending foreclosures in the country could be avoided utilizing more practical rather than political strategies. If the past is prologue, by funding a Homeowners Refinance Act, similar to the one used during the Great Depression, we could multiply the effectiveness of the current Bailout Plan. However, this time mortgages could be made to homeowner’s in a subordinate lien position.</p><p>For example, banks could be given a profitable alternative to foreclosure by modifying the amount of their nonperforming mortgages to 80% of the properties current value with a new manageable fixed rate and payment terms. The incentive would be realized by distributing a 10% cash payoff to any existing lien holders in exchange for a 20% lien on the homeowner’s property. As a former mortgage and real estate broker that currently negotiates discounted mortgage payoffs, I can confidently say that most banks would prefer this strategy to foreclosure.</p><p>Simultaneously attacking the growing surplus of available homes, similar lending standards could be available to individuals interested in purchasing a home. The underlining political dilemma of making this “bailout” fair and profitable could be presented in the following manner: Participating individuals would lose their ability to receive tax credits for the interest paid towards their primary mortgage. Instead, that amount would be credited towards the 20% lien held by the government. With the average mortgage being less than $250,000, over 20 million homes could be saved or purchased using the same $700 billion. Systematically, this would significantly lower mortgage payments, increasing household cash flow, thus directly stimulating the economy through more consumer buying power.</p><p>Increasing real buying power as opposed to the borrowing power that some economic strategist call “tackling the credit freeze”, is a better long-term approach to maintaining a productive economy.</p><p>After acknowledging that the major investment banks who masked these mortgage-backed securities for so many years have either failed or converted to more regulated entities, the inappropriately inflated investor confidence is the only other major intangible deficiency plaguing the current financial crisis. The Bailout appears to be more focused on re-inflating that confidence than dealing with the catalyst causing the deflation. By identifying better alternatives, it is fair to say that the timing, magnitude and methodology of the Bailout Plan do not proportionately reflect its intended objective of immediately stabilizing the economy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Henderson</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-61004</link> <dc:creator>Mike Henderson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-61004</guid> <description>There is another link under the Bigger Pockets website under Bigger Pockets http://themortgageinsider.net/mortgage/interest-only-mortgage-hucksters-compound-mortgage-crisis/Makes for a good read about Quicken Loans.The final thing about his plan that strikes me as odd or wrong.  He proposes three types of mortgages.  The first one is ARM&#039;s with no cap.  I&#039;m a mortgage broker and I&#039;m not aware of any ARM&#039;s that I can sell from banks that don&#039;t have caps.  If I&#039;m wrong on this please let me know.To have no cap it must be a private party or owner carry.  Then it gets back to the moral hazzard issue.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another link under the Bigger Pockets website under Bigger Pockets <a href="http://themortgageinsider.net/mortgage/interest-only-mortgage-hucksters-compound-mortgage-crisis/" rel="nofollow">http://themortgageinsider.net/mortgage/interest-only-mortgage-hucksters-compound-mortgage-crisis/</a></p><p>Makes for a good read about Quicken Loans.</p><p>The final thing about his plan that strikes me as odd or wrong.  He proposes three types of mortgages.  The first one is ARM&#8217;s with no cap.  I&#8217;m a mortgage broker and I&#8217;m not aware of any ARM&#8217;s that I can sell from banks that don&#8217;t have caps.  If I&#8217;m wrong on this please let me know.</p><p>To have no cap it must be a private party or owner carry.  Then it gets back to the moral hazzard issue.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60934</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60934</guid> <description>There is a lot of money waiting to acquire these assets once the servicer s will sell them in bulk at rates that allow a good business plan to be profitable. Tax Incentives can be used to convert the majority of these into rentals taking them out of the market place.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of money waiting to acquire these assets once the servicer s will sell them in bulk at rates that allow a good business plan to be profitable. Tax<br /> Incentives can be used to convert the majority of these into rentals taking them out of the market place.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60820</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:58:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60820</guid> <description>I always love it when we get these second guess plans AFTER the FACT of the law. What difference does it make if it is a good plan or not?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always love it when we get these second guess plans AFTER the FACT of the law. What difference does it make if it is a good plan or not?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SG</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60567</link> <dc:creator>SG</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:13:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60567</guid> <description>It should be further noted that the only reason we&#039;re having this conversation is because of what can only be labeled judicial malpractice on the part of the Supreme Court during the last major economic crisis of our time under Hoover / FDR.The specific malpractice I&#039;m referring to is the deliberate misinterpretation of the so-called &quot;General Welfare&quot; clause in the Constitution.  Most Americans are completely unaware of the fact that the highest law in the land-- the law upon which all others rest-- is The Constitution.  And that most of what Congress does today-- including the &quot;social programs&quot; spending that comprises 65% of the multi-trillion dollar Federal Budget-- is NOT AUTHORIZED by the Constitution.We got these programs, bailouts, individual &amp; corporate welfare, and myriad other spending and spending proposals because the Court once upon a time for political expediency liberally interpreted the words &quot;general welfare&quot; broadly and without regard for their original intent / meaning.James Madison, the undisputed &quot;Father of The Constitution&quot; had this to say concerning &quot;general welfare&quot;:  &quot;With respect to the two words &quot;general welfare,&quot; I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the &quot;Articles of Confederation,&quot; and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted.&quot;and, In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, &quot;I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&quot;AND...&quot;Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.&quot;With this bailout the only truly free nation on earth has capitulated.  The worst part is that we traded our Constitution for a solution that isn&#039;t even going to work.  Global hyper-inflation is next.  Total economic collapse follows that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be further noted that the only reason we&#8217;re having this conversation is because of what can only be labeled judicial malpractice on the part of the Supreme Court during the last major economic crisis of our time under Hoover / FDR.</p><p>The specific malpractice I&#8217;m referring to is the deliberate misinterpretation of the so-called &#8220;General Welfare&#8221; clause in the Constitution.  Most Americans are completely unaware of the fact that the highest law in the land&#8211; the law upon which all others rest&#8211; is The Constitution.  And that most of what Congress does today&#8211; including the &#8220;social programs&#8221; spending that comprises 65% of the multi-trillion dollar Federal Budget&#8211; is NOT AUTHORIZED by the Constitution.</p><p>We got these programs, bailouts, individual &amp; corporate welfare, and myriad other spending and spending proposals because the Court once upon a time for political expediency liberally interpreted the words &#8220;general welfare&#8221; broadly and without regard for their original intent / meaning.</p><p>James Madison, the undisputed &#8220;Father of The Constitution&#8221; had this to say concerning &#8220;general welfare&#8221;:  &#8220;With respect to the two words &#8220;general welfare,&#8221; I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the &#8220;Articles of Confederation,&#8221; and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted.&#8221;</p><p>and, In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, &#8220;I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&#8221;</p><p>AND&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.&#8221;</p><p>With this bailout the only truly free nation on earth has capitulated.  The worst part is that we traded our Constitution for a solution that isn&#8217;t even going to work.  Global hyper-inflation is next.  Total economic collapse follows that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SG</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60566</link> <dc:creator>SG</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:02:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60566</guid> <description>I&#039;m reluctant to support ANYTHING thata) Bails out home owners in default-- 70% of whom LIED on their application to get the loan, and 5 million of whom are in this country ILLEGALLY and thus committed document fraud, identity theft, or some degree of both in conjunction with mortgage fraud to obtain loans.b) Bails out lenders who made the aforementioned loansc) Bails out share owners of the above who during the good times counted their private profit gain and who now want to socialize their losses.d) Bails out financial institutions that purchased mortgage backed securities, derivatives, and other instruments backed by shaky loanse) Relieves retirees who blindly trusted others with their money, and who should be paying closer attentionf) Shifts the focus from those responsible.The aforementioned plan does all of the above.  In short, there&#039;s absolutely NO justification for using the Treasury of the United States to fix this.  Sooner or later we&#039;re going to eat this.  This trillion dollar tinkering is just kicking the can down the road.  The next big bankruptcies are Social Security and Medicare.  The government has been borrowing from these programs for years-- using the borrowed funds to mask the true size of the Federal Deficit and debt.  Forgive me if I find this proposal as self-serving as the other government bailout ideas.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reluctant to support ANYTHING that</p><p>a) Bails out home owners in default&#8211; 70% of whom LIED on their application to get the loan, and 5 million of whom are in this country ILLEGALLY and thus committed document fraud, identity theft, or some degree of both in conjunction with mortgage fraud to obtain loans.</p><p>b) Bails out lenders who made the aforementioned loans</p><p>c) Bails out share owners of the above who during the good times counted their private profit gain and who now want to socialize their losses.</p><p>d) Bails out financial institutions that purchased mortgage backed securities, derivatives, and other instruments backed by shaky loans</p><p>e) Relieves retirees who blindly trusted others with their money, and who should be paying closer attention</p><p>f) Shifts the focus from those responsible.</p><p>The aforementioned plan does all of the above.  In short, there&#8217;s absolutely NO justification for using the Treasury of the United States to fix this.  Sooner or later we&#8217;re going to eat this.  This trillion dollar tinkering is just kicking the can down the road.  The next big bankruptcies are Social Security and Medicare.  The government has been borrowing from these programs for years&#8211; using the borrowed funds to mask the true size of the Federal Deficit and debt.  Forgive me if I find this proposal as self-serving as the other government bailout ideas.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Randy</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60544</link> <dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60544</guid> <description>I like the plan except for one part. Why should the government subsidize the difference between the temporary interest rate and the final interest rates. Banks who wrote the loans should take this loss. They didn&#039;t and don&#039;t need the government to do this. Banks were just too arrogant to admit their screwups thus turning a small loss into a catastrophy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the plan except for one part. Why should the government subsidize the difference between the temporary interest rate and the final interest rates. Banks who wrote the loans should take this loss. They didn&#8217;t and don&#8217;t need the government to do this. Banks were just too arrogant to admit their screwups thus turning a small loss into a catastrophy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paige</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60529</link> <dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60529</guid> <description>Why not just add the unpaid portion to the balance of the loan, yes, like a neg am, only fixed, and perhaps amortize over 35 years.This would cost the taxpayers nothing, and could be offered to all mortgage holders and homebuyers as a new product.Can I have a spa treatment?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just add the unpaid portion to the balance of the loan, yes, like a neg am, only fixed, and perhaps amortize over 35 years.</p><p>This would cost the taxpayers nothing, and could be offered to all mortgage holders and homebuyers as a new product.</p><p>Can I have a spa treatment?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rehab702</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60527</link> <dc:creator>Rehab702</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60527</guid> <description>How about a plan for all those people who were actually responsible?  If you bought a house that you could actually afford, used a down payment and acquired a home using a mortgage that you actually were able to qualify for without gimmicks, then your loan will be forgiven.  Probaly wouldn&#039;t have very many people qualify for that.  Instead we reward those who were totally irresponsible, but this is an election year and the slime in Washington need votes.  It&#039;s disgusting.  The inmates truly are running the asylum when a plan like this could even be proposped.  What happened to this country?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a plan for all those people who were actually responsible?  If you bought a house that you could actually afford, used a down payment and acquired a home using a mortgage that you actually were able to qualify for without gimmicks, then your loan will be forgiven.  Probaly wouldn&#8217;t have very many people qualify for that.  Instead we reward those who were totally irresponsible, but this is an election year and the slime in Washington need votes.  It&#8217;s disgusting.  The inmates truly are running the asylum when a plan like this could even be proposped.  What happened to this country?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/08/a-solution-that-works/#comment-60524</link> <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=1717#comment-60524</guid> <description>As far as I see it, lending practices have been way to lax.  I remember hearing one particular lender about a year ago or so advertising on the radio here in Michigan.  I&#039;m not going to say who but it is a huge lending company.They were giving out loans like candy to kids at the store.  Now, here we are.  The best part is that the people that got us into trouble, including the gov., are now trying to fix it. Interesting?The worst part about all of this is that real estate investors and agents have an extremely hard time gaining trust and credibility from people.  The past few years have ruined it for them.I wrote a post on my blog about it and created a contest to help each other out.  People have been commenting on it and coming up with some great ways to improve credibility and trust.  The contest ends tonight but the prize is still there.Peter</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I see it, lending practices have been way to lax.  I remember hearing one particular lender about a year ago or so advertising on the radio here in Michigan.  I&#8217;m not going to say who but it is a huge lending company.</p><p>They were giving out loans like candy to kids at the store.  Now, here we are.  The best part is that the people that got us into trouble, including the gov., are now trying to fix it. Interesting?</p><p>The worst part about all of this is that real estate investors and agents have an extremely hard time gaining trust and credibility from people.  The past few years have ruined it for them.</p><p>I wrote a post on my blog about it and created a contest to help each other out.  People have been commenting on it and coming up with some great ways to improve credibility and trust.  The contest ends tonight but the prize is still there.</p><p>Peter</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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