<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Real Estate Guru Pitch Fest Seminars&#8230; You Bring it Upon Yourselves.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/</link> <description>Learn, Network, Invest</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:51:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: rosie</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-62956</link> <dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-62956</guid> <description>Hi Corey!Yes all of these guys are amazing.  I will be getting to a Jack Miller and Peter Foruntnto workshop this year for sure!  I tried to get Jack to speak at my club but he no longer speaks at clubs :(I think I am still trying to get Peter.  I can&#039;t remember where I am in those inquiries.   I checked out your website - it looks like your workshops are in Tampa ey?  Too bad.  If they were in L.A. - I would promote it for you!THanks for your commments Corey! Rosie</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Corey!</p><p>Yes all of these guys are amazing.  I will be getting to a Jack Miller and Peter Foruntnto workshop this year for sure!  I tried to get Jack to speak at my club but he no longer speaks at clubs <img src='http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I think I am still trying to get Peter.  I can&#8217;t remember where I am in those inquiries.   I checked out your website &#8211; it looks like your workshops are in Tampa ey?  Too bad.  If they were in L.A. &#8211; I would promote it for you!</p><p>THanks for your commments Corey!<br /> Rosie</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corey Donahue</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-62954</link> <dc:creator>Corey Donahue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-62954</guid> <description>sorry, it&#039;s Pete Fortunato.... typo!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, it&#8217;s Pete Fortunato&#8230;. typo!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corey Donahue</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-62953</link> <dc:creator>Corey Donahue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:48:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-62953</guid> <description>Rosie,It&#039;s so funny, I was just looking at your blog and saw that you heard from Mike about Jack Miller... he&#039;s one of my mentors. I go to his home on Fridays and hang out with a ton of other successful people and learn all I can from them. GO TO EVERYTHING YOU CAN of his!! Pete Fortuanto is another that is UNBELIEVABLE... www.peterforutnato.com.  Don&#039;t miss any class they give, they won&#039;t be here forever, and Pete doesn&#039;t sell anything but classes so once he&#039;s gone, so is his material.Happy New Year,Corey</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosie,</p><p>It&#8217;s so funny, I was just looking at your blog and saw that you heard from Mike about Jack Miller&#8230; he&#8217;s one of my mentors. I go to his home on Fridays and hang out with a ton of other successful people and learn all I can from them. GO TO EVERYTHING YOU CAN of his!! Pete Fortuanto is another that is UNBELIEVABLE&#8230; <a href="http://www.peterforutnato.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.peterforutnato.com</a>.  Don&#8217;t miss any class they give, they won&#8217;t be here forever, and Pete doesn&#8217;t sell anything but classes so once he&#8217;s gone, so is his material.</p><p>Happy New Year,</p><p>Corey</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corey Donahue</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-62952</link> <dc:creator>Corey Donahue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-62952</guid> <description>Hey Guys,I&#039;m with Rosie, I&#039;ve been mentored by (in my opinion) the best in the business. I&#039;m blown away by the absolute lack of knowledge 85% of the &quot;guru&#039;s&quot; have. What I have come to realize is that they are not the best at real estate at all (not a guru by definition), but what they are the best at is marketing. I think the solution to our problem here is to learn their marketing styles and techniques, combine them with our real estate experience and true knowledge and bring real products to the market that actually change people&#039;s lives.The other problem people like us have, is we can&#039;t FORCE people to take action. Many of the &quot;guru&quot; products do have good information (some of which has been &quot;rewritten&quot; from other good material), however, the average person at a pitch fest wants to be spoon fed how to make a million dollars by next Tuesday while they sit at home in their PJ&#039;s. The deal is, it takes real commitment, real education, and REAL HARD WORK, to get rich. That&#039;s not a sexy message, but the end result is, when you put it all together over a period of time, you get RICH. That&#039;s the beauty of America!Rosie, good luck in your pursuit. We have the same passion about this subject. Here&#039;s how my friend and I are trying to tackle it... We&#039;ve actually had very good success so far.Thanks for doing what you do. Please let me know if I can be of any help to you in any way.Sincerely,Corey Donahue</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys,</p><p>I&#8217;m with Rosie, I&#8217;ve been mentored by (in my opinion) the best in the business. I&#8217;m blown away by the absolute lack of knowledge 85% of the &#8220;guru&#8217;s&#8221; have. What I have come to realize is that they are not the best at real estate at all (not a guru by definition), but what they are the best at is marketing. I think the solution to our problem here is to learn their marketing styles and techniques, combine them with our real estate experience and true knowledge and bring real products to the market that actually change people&#8217;s lives.</p><p>The other problem people like us have, is we can&#8217;t FORCE people to take action. Many of the &#8220;guru&#8221; products do have good information (some of which has been &#8220;rewritten&#8221; from other good material), however, the average person at a pitch fest wants to be spoon fed how to make a million dollars by next Tuesday while they sit at home in their PJ&#8217;s. The deal is, it takes real commitment, real education, and REAL HARD WORK, to get rich. That&#8217;s not a sexy message, but the end result is, when you put it all together over a period of time, you get RICH. That&#8217;s the beauty of America!</p><p>Rosie, good luck in your pursuit. We have the same passion about this subject. Here&#8217;s how my friend and I are trying to tackle it&#8230; We&#8217;ve actually had very good success so far.</p><p>Thanks for doing what you do. Please let me know if I can be of any help to you in any way.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Corey Donahue</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rosie</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-60900</link> <dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:55:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-60900</guid> <description>I know!  It&#039;s so crazy I tell you.  It&#039;s quite a quandary.  To tell you the truth - I am stumped at what to do about it all.Today, I actually had an up and coming guru (like we need another one!), tell me that [I might as well accept it], that I&#039;m not going to change the [guru pitch fest] world.  And he wasn&#039;t being nice to me when he said it.  He was being more like &quot;accept it kid - we&#039;re bigger than you&quot; kind of tone.Hey... why don&#039;t we have a big seminar that is called  &quot;Insider Secrets of the Guru Pitch Fests... What the gurus don&#039;t want you to know about the seminar world...!&quot;Hhhhmmm... maybe I&#039;m onto something here....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know!  It&#8217;s so crazy I tell you.  It&#8217;s quite a quandary.  To tell you the truth &#8211; I am stumped at what to do about it all.</p><p>Today, I actually had an up and coming guru (like we need another one!), tell me that [I might as well accept it], that I&#8217;m not going to change the [guru pitch fest] world.  And he wasn&#8217;t being nice to me when he said it.  He was being more like &#8220;accept it kid &#8211; we&#8217;re bigger than you&#8221; kind of tone.</p><p>Hey&#8230; why don&#8217;t we have a big seminar that is called  &#8220;Insider Secrets of the Guru Pitch Fests&#8230; What the gurus don&#8217;t want you to know about the seminar world&#8230;!&#8221;</p><p>Hhhhmmm&#8230; maybe I&#8217;m onto something here&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Dorkin</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-60898</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:49:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-60898</guid> <description>The few times I&#039;ve attended these types of events, I&#039;ve paid special attention to the average attendees . . . most are like deer in headlights.  The people are enchanted by the sell and flock to the limited time only offer being pitched.Sadly, hours or days later, they stop and ask themselves &quot;what the hell did I do&quot;?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The few times I&#8217;ve attended these types of events, I&#8217;ve paid special attention to the average attendees . . . most are like deer in headlights.  The people are enchanted by the sell and flock to the limited time only offer being pitched.</p><p>Sadly, hours or days later, they stop and ask themselves &#8220;what the hell did I do&#8221;?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rehab702</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-60897</link> <dc:creator>Rehab702</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:03:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-60897</guid> <description>Rosie,You hit the nail on the head once again.  At my real estate club we always have one presenter pitching something.  We do offer education, but these “guru”s pay to pitch their products and people line up to buy.  The sad thing is that several of us put together an educational seminar to teach what it’s like in the real world.  We priced it to cover the cost of the room yet only a handful of people were interested.  Instead of paying $75 for a day of education from people who have really done it, they pay thousands to these snake-oil salesmen.  As they say, “you sell the sizzle, not the steak.”</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosie,</p><p>You hit the nail on the head once again.  At my real estate club we always have one presenter pitching something.  We do offer education, but these “guru”s pay to pitch their products and people line up to buy.  The sad thing is that several of us put together an educational seminar to teach what it’s like in the real world.  We priced it to cover the cost of the room yet only a handful of people were interested.  Instead of paying $75 for a day of education from people who have really done it, they pay thousands to these snake-oil salesmen.  As they say, “you sell the sizzle, not the steak.”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kristal Kraft</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/10/29/pitch-fest-seminarsyou-bring-it-upon-yourselves/#comment-60896</link> <dc:creator>Kristal Kraft</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:23:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=2051#comment-60896</guid> <description>You are so right about the pitch fest seminars!  I tend to think of them being a Hot Shower.  It only feels really good while you are in them, but as soon as you step out, the cold breeze ensues.Creating and delivering value 24/7 is a way of life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right about the pitch fest seminars!  I tend to think of them being a Hot Shower.  It only feels really good while you are in them, but as soon as you step out, the cold breeze ensues.</p><p>Creating and delivering value 24/7 is a way of life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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