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	<title>Comments on: Considering a Self Directed IRA? Caveat Emptor</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Boots</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/04/15/directed-ira-caveat-emptor/comment-page-1/#comment-65668</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,

You are correct, however there is a way around the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you are under 59.5.  If you need money out of your IRA prior to age 59.5 you can take a 72(t) election and distribute funds in substantial and equal distributions in order to avoid the 10% penalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>You are correct, however there is a way around the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you are under 59.5.  If you need money out of your IRA prior to age 59.5 you can take a 72(t) election and distribute funds in substantial and equal distributions in order to avoid the 10% penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Boots</title>
		<link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/04/15/directed-ira-caveat-emptor/comment-page-1/#comment-65667</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie,

I appreciate the feedback and I wholeheartedly agree that investors need to have options.  However, investors need to be cautious and realize that if they act on incorrect information provided by their paid custodian there is a risk of potential negative tax consequences.  Investors must do their own due diligence in order to work with a reputable company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie,</p>
<p>I appreciate the feedback and I wholeheartedly agree that investors need to have options.  However, investors need to be cautious and realize that if they act on incorrect information provided by their paid custodian there is a risk of potential negative tax consequences.  Investors must do their own due diligence in order to work with a reputable company.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Gillette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt Gillette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Laurie, individual investors should be responsible for their own investment decisions...

As for real estate and IRAs, I too have run across a number of sites touting various strategies.  My question has less to do with CAN or CAN&#039;T I buy real estate in my IRA, but WHY buy real estate in your IRA...  Can anyone enlighten me?

As I see it, the real advantage of an IRA is tax deductibility and tax-free growth.  And while the purchase of a rental property isn&#039;t tax deductible, the income is tax-free if offset by depreciation, and I never pay capital gains if proceeds from the sale are used to buy a new property.

So other than a few thousand dollars in annual tax deductibility, what&#039;s the advantage in buying real estate with an IRA?  Wouldn&#039;t an IRA be put to better use investing in assets which are more often subject to taxation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Laurie, individual investors should be responsible for their own investment decisions&#8230;</p>
<p>As for real estate and IRAs, I too have run across a number of sites touting various strategies.  My question has less to do with CAN or CAN&#8217;T I buy real estate in my IRA, but WHY buy real estate in your IRA&#8230;  Can anyone enlighten me?</p>
<p>As I see it, the real advantage of an IRA is tax deductibility and tax-free growth.  And while the purchase of a rental property isn&#8217;t tax deductible, the income is tax-free if offset by depreciation, and I never pay capital gains if proceeds from the sale are used to buy a new property.</p>
<p>So other than a few thousand dollars in annual tax deductibility, what&#8217;s the advantage in buying real estate with an IRA?  Wouldn&#8217;t an IRA be put to better use investing in assets which are more often subject to taxation?</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dont need a complex answer, here is a very simple one. If you take money our of an IRA to use for a business, that will create a taxable event, and if you are under 59.5 years, you will have to pay a penality, around 10%. You can transfer a 401k into an IRA and you will not own any tax. But if you take that money out of the IRA, the tax man will get his tax for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont need a complex answer, here is a very simple one. If you take money our of an IRA to use for a business, that will create a taxable event, and if you are under 59.5 years, you will have to pay a penality, around 10%. You can transfer a 401k into an IRA and you will not own any tax. But if you take that money out of the IRA, the tax man will get his tax for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

While I agree it is always good advice for people to educate themselves about IRS rules, I am a nonetheless a little rankled by your post.

In my experience, more people are being harmed by incorrect information about what they CAN&#039;T do with their IRAs than what they CAN.  In particular, &quot;advisors&quot; who are really sales reps and the big mutual fund companies and brokerages touting &quot;self-directed&quot; IRAs that really aren&#039;t are doing a lot more damage to more people&#039;s financial well-being.  These firms perpetuate the incorrect notion that &quot;self-directed&quot; means you can invest in &quot;any public stock or fund WE offer.&quot;  This is denying people the right to truly diversify their retirement portfolios -- something we now all know all too well is crucial.

It&#039;s also not reasonable for people to expect their custodian to take on liability for investors&#039; decisions in the first place.  Their job is to maintain custody of assets -- not provide legal advice.  As with any other tax decision -- be it deductions, corporate formations, paying your nanny  or utilizing IRA funds -- American citizens are responsible for knowing the law themselves.

Many people today have the majority of their non-home assets tied up in retirement accounts, so being aware of what is possible and legal -- and making sound choices -- is absolutely key. I believe more people are being harmed by failing to pursue diversification and the best investment opportunities because they&#039;ve accepted bad/biased information about what is not permitted than are making the kind of mistakes you describe.

Bottom line: we all have a stake in getting the RIGHT information out to everyone, to level the investing playing field. It shouldn&#039;t be the case that only the most wealthy people with the best attorneys and CPAs can tap the benefits of diversification -- or investing in real estate (or real estate related vehicles) at a time of unusual bargains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>While I agree it is always good advice for people to educate themselves about IRS rules, I am a nonetheless a little rankled by your post.</p>
<p>In my experience, more people are being harmed by incorrect information about what they CAN&#8217;T do with their IRAs than what they CAN.  In particular, &#8220;advisors&#8221; who are really sales reps and the big mutual fund companies and brokerages touting &#8220;self-directed&#8221; IRAs that really aren&#8217;t are doing a lot more damage to more people&#8217;s financial well-being.  These firms perpetuate the incorrect notion that &#8220;self-directed&#8221; means you can invest in &#8220;any public stock or fund WE offer.&#8221;  This is denying people the right to truly diversify their retirement portfolios &#8212; something we now all know all too well is crucial.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also not reasonable for people to expect their custodian to take on liability for investors&#8217; decisions in the first place.  Their job is to maintain custody of assets &#8212; not provide legal advice.  As with any other tax decision &#8212; be it deductions, corporate formations, paying your nanny  or utilizing IRA funds &#8212; American citizens are responsible for knowing the law themselves.</p>
<p>Many people today have the majority of their non-home assets tied up in retirement accounts, so being aware of what is possible and legal &#8212; and making sound choices &#8212; is absolutely key. I believe more people are being harmed by failing to pursue diversification and the best investment opportunities because they&#8217;ve accepted bad/biased information about what is not permitted than are making the kind of mistakes you describe.</p>
<p>Bottom line: we all have a stake in getting the RIGHT information out to everyone, to level the investing playing field. It shouldn&#8217;t be the case that only the most wealthy people with the best attorneys and CPAs can tap the benefits of diversification &#8212; or investing in real estate (or real estate related vehicles) at a time of unusual bargains.</p>
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