<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Deja-Vu&#8230; All Over Again! This time in the Commercial Real Estate Market</title> <atom:link href="http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/</link> <description>Learn, Network, Invest</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:23:53 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Peter Giardini</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74503</link> <dc:creator>Peter Giardini</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:31:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74503</guid> <description>Dave,In many regards that already have.  Just try to get a deal financed today.  It seems no one... at least not the regulated lenders are lending at all.As for how they are valuing their portfolios... only time will tell.  I am predicting that on the residential side they will start to adjust their residential portfolios to reflect reality after the end of year reporting for 2009.I don&#039;t think the pain level is high enough on the commercial side and as long as the lenders can continue in their fantasy world they are going to.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p><p>In many regards that already have.  Just try to get a deal financed today.  It seems no one&#8230; at least not the regulated lenders are lending at all.</p><p>As for how they are valuing their portfolios&#8230; only time will tell.  I am predicting that on the residential side they will start to adjust their residential portfolios to reflect reality after the end of year reporting for 2009.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think the pain level is high enough on the commercial side and as long as the lenders can continue in their fantasy world they are going to.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave Sharp</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74500</link> <dc:creator>Dave Sharp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74500</guid> <description>Are these commercial lenders bound to change the way they do things?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these commercial lenders bound to change the way they do things?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Iman Yusef-Yahya</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74463</link> <dc:creator>Iman Yusef-Yahya</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74463</guid> <description>Thanks for clearing that up Josh and Peter. Josh for the gravatar tip. .-= Iman Yusef-Yahya&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://imanandjoeswholesaleproperties.com/blog/reo-properties-7-must-know-tips-and-how-to-profit-from-them/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;REO Properties: 7 Must-Know Tips and How to Profit From Them&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing that up Josh and Peter. Josh for the gravatar tip.<br /> .-= Iman Yusef-Yahya&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://imanandjoeswholesaleproperties.com/blog/reo-properties-7-must-know-tips-and-how-to-profit-from-them/" rel="nofollow">REO Properties: 7 Must-Know Tips and How to Profit From Them</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter Giardini</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74462</link> <dc:creator>Peter Giardini</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74462</guid> <description>WOW... great comments.Iman... as Josh mentioned I am arguing that the coming commercial fall is a big deal.While there are some who don&#039;t share that view... as referred to in the article... click on the word DIALOG in the middle of the third paragraph to see some of the views of the experts.For Dave, in the same article here is the reference regarding banks and their current valuation methods...&quot; Hessam Nadji directs research for Marcus and Millichap Real Estate Investment Services in California. He says in the meantime, banks are holding the loans on their books at full value and employing a tactic you might call &quot;delay and pray.&quot;HESSAM NADJI: The bottom line is lenders are, as a result, extending loans and trying to avoid short-term additional losses until they get stronger and have the wherewithal to start to process some of the undervalued real estate.&quot;I hope this helps to add some clarity to the discussion?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW&#8230; great comments.</p><p>Iman&#8230; as Josh mentioned I am arguing that the coming commercial fall is a big deal.</p><p>While there are some who don&#8217;t share that view&#8230; as referred to in the article&#8230; click on the word DIALOG in the middle of the third paragraph to see some of the views of the experts.</p><p>For Dave, in the same article here is the reference regarding banks and their current valuation methods&#8230;</p><p>&#8221; Hessam Nadji directs research for Marcus and Millichap Real Estate Investment Services in California. He says in the meantime, banks are holding the loans on their books at full value and employing a tactic you might call &#8220;delay and pray.&#8221;</p><p>HESSAM NADJI: The bottom line is lenders are, as a result, extending loans and trying to avoid short-term additional losses until they get stronger and have the wherewithal to start to process some of the undervalued real estate.&#8221;</p><p>I hope this helps to add some clarity to the discussion?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Dorkin</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74461</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:41:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74461</guid> <description>Iman - I&#039;m pretty sure Peter was saying that the commercial real estate market being in trouble is a BIG DEAL.(BTW - You may want to jump on Gravatar.com so you can have your pic posted with your comments here and on any other wordpress blog)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iman &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty sure Peter was saying that the commercial real estate market being in trouble is a BIG DEAL.</p><p>(BTW &#8211; You may want to jump on Gravatar.com so you can have your pic posted with your comments here and on any other wordpress blog)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Iman Yusef-Yahya</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74457</link> <dc:creator>Iman Yusef-Yahya</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74457</guid> <description>Are you arguing that the commercial market ISN&quot;T in as serious a danger as the experts are reporting? And if so, can you cite something that would support that? I only ask this question based on your statement in the first paragraph:&quot;it seems that everyone is now paying attention to the coming challenges with the commercial mortgage market.  And who can blame anyone for thinking that the commercial market is on the edge, and will likely go right over the side in the coming 2 – 3 years.&quot; .-= Iman Yusef-Yahya&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://imanandjoeswholesaleproperties.com/blog/reo-properties-7-must-know-tips-and-how-to-profit-from-them/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;REO Properties: 7 Must-Know Tips and How to Profit From Them&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you arguing that the commercial market ISN&#8221;T in as serious a danger as the experts are reporting? And if so, can you cite something that would support that? I only ask this question based on your statement in the first paragraph:</p><p>&#8220;it seems that everyone is now paying attention to the coming challenges with the commercial mortgage market.  And who can blame anyone for thinking that the commercial market is on the edge, and will likely go right over the side in the coming 2 – 3 years.&#8221;<br /> .-= Iman Yusef-Yahya&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://imanandjoeswholesaleproperties.com/blog/reo-properties-7-must-know-tips-and-how-to-profit-from-them/" rel="nofollow">REO Properties: 7 Must-Know Tips and How to Profit From Them</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave Sharp</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74450</link> <dc:creator>Dave Sharp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74450</guid> <description>Can you point to some source material that shows that commercial lenders are in fact using old valuations?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you point to some source material that shows that commercial lenders are in fact using old valuations?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Liz</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/10/21/dejavu/#comment-74443</link> <dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=7939#comment-74443</guid> <description>Is is any wonder the commercial sector is dropping.  They overbuilt just like new home builders and are now left with large surplus&#039;s.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is is any wonder the commercial sector is dropping.  They overbuilt just like new home builders and are now left with large surplus&#8217;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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