<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Wait! Before You Buy That Real Estate Course or E-book&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/</link> <description>Learn, Network, Invest</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:37:50 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Shae Bynes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75688</link> <dc:creator>Shae Bynes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:38:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75688</guid> <description>...and an awesome 2 cents it was, James :-)  Have a Happy Thanksgiving!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and an awesome 2 cents it was, James <img src='http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Have a Happy Thanksgiving!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Mikel</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75686</link> <dc:creator>James Mikel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:57:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75686</guid> <description>The best place to start, for any investment, is at the most direct source.  In Cali-I ran a query on Goolge for Cali Counties.  Picked a county name at  random and returned to Google Mariposa County Gov.  It took about 25 seconds to locate the link and some info on their next tax sale at the Clerk of Courts site.  County autions and protocal are mandated by Statute so what is found in one county will likely pertain to all within a given state, research your local area.Once you are aware of the different offices in your county, visit them and start gathering data.Example Foreclosures:  If you are interested in foreclosures, there will be files held at the Clerk of Courts office or atleast this is a great starting point.  Each file will be accessible and holds all of the documents for the case.  These files will be retreivable by case number, the case number can be found on the ad for the auction.   On many documents within that file you will find Statute numbers pertaining to info on documents, query them on Google.  The same holds true for most auctioned property, there will be a file-in that file you will see referenced Statutes or U.S.C. that can be used to gather other information.  This is what I call information lincoln logs.  Some small piece of info leads to building a new piece on top and then it begins to expand.   You can see for yourself I have a page on my site which answered a question in regards to Hawaii Tax Deeds and Oklahoma tax lien auctions, the process for locating the info is the constant and in both instances it took less than 2 minutes to gather the information.  Knowing where to look is of more value than being told what to do.Ask lots of questions and  befriend someone at the court house.  This will always give you a leg up, I frequently pay for luches with people from the court house that we have gotten friendly with.  Because of this I can get attention and answers where many can not.I have paid for lunches with judges, deputy clerks, assistants in the property appraisers office, pretty much anyone.  This always works better if it is woman to woman, that is why I say I pay for lunches not attend them.  My female counterpart actually gets to enjoy the lunch and I get to enjoy the free info.  Men offering to take you to lunch over a simple answer seems weird to many, sorry men we are out of luck on this.  If you are serious, send your wife.http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/RealEstateInvestorFAQ.htmlJust my 2 cents</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best place to start, for any investment, is at the most direct source.  In Cali-I ran a query on Goolge for Cali Counties.  Picked a county name at  random and returned to Google Mariposa County Gov.  It took about 25 seconds to locate the link and some info on their next tax sale at the Clerk of Courts site.  County autions and protocal are mandated by Statute so what is found in one county will likely pertain to all within a given state, research your local area.</p><p>Once you are aware of the different offices in your county, visit them and start gathering data.</p><p>Example Foreclosures:  If you are interested in foreclosures, there will be files held at the Clerk of Courts office or atleast this is a great starting point.  Each file will be accessible and holds all of the documents for the case.  These files will be retreivable by case number, the case number can be found on the ad for the auction.   On many documents within that file you will find Statute numbers pertaining to info on documents, query them on Google.  The same holds true for most auctioned property, there will be a file-in that file you will see referenced Statutes or U.S.C. that can be used to gather other information.  This is what I call information lincoln logs.  Some small piece of info leads to building a new piece on top and then it begins to expand.   You can see for yourself I have a page on my site which answered a question in regards to Hawaii Tax Deeds and Oklahoma tax lien auctions, the process for locating the info is the constant and in both instances it took less than 2 minutes to gather the information.  Knowing where to look is of more value than being told what to do.</p><p>Ask lots of questions and  befriend someone at the court house.  This will always give you a leg up, I frequently pay for luches with people from the court house that we have gotten friendly with.  Because of this I can get attention and answers where many can not.</p><p>I have paid for lunches with judges, deputy clerks, assistants in the property appraisers office, pretty much anyone.  This always works better if it is woman to woman, that is why I say I pay for lunches not attend them.  My female counterpart actually gets to enjoy the lunch and I get to enjoy the free info.  Men offering to take you to lunch over a simple answer seems weird to many, sorry men we are out of luck on this.  If you are serious, send your wife.</p><p><a href="http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/RealEstateInvestorFAQ.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/RealEstateInvestorFAQ.html</a></p><p>Just my 2 cents</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shae Bynes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75683</link> <dc:creator>Shae Bynes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:03:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75683</guid> <description>Hey Joey, thanks for your comments.  I&#039;m yet to see a specific website that allows you to research an extensive list of options in one place....what I&#039;ve seen are websites that are dedicated to bashing a ton of products :-)As you mentioned, I think a great place to start is in forums and you can begin to figure out the direction you&#039;d like to go and ask experienced investors for advice.  I think I&#039;m going to work on a blog post in a couple weeks that talks a bit more about the options you have as a new investor and how to compare them and make decisions about where to start.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joey, thanks for your comments.  I&#8217;m yet to see a specific website that allows you to research an extensive list of options in one place&#8230;.what I&#8217;ve seen are websites that are dedicated to bashing a ton of products <img src='http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>As you mentioned, I think a great place to start is in forums and you can begin to figure out the direction you&#8217;d like to go and ask experienced investors for advice.  I think I&#8217;m going to work on a blog post in a couple weeks that talks a bit more about the options you have as a new investor and how to compare them and make decisions about where to start.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joey Chen</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75669</link> <dc:creator>Joey Chen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75669</guid> <description>Nice post and great feedback from the comments section. My question is where would I go to research or even just find mentoring programs? I know forums is a start but are there any websites or information out there that covers such programs? Btw, I&#039;m from California.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post and great feedback from the comments section. My question is where would I go to research or even just find mentoring programs? I know forums is a start but are there any websites or information out there that covers such programs? Btw, I&#8217;m from California.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Mikel</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75593</link> <dc:creator>James Mikel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:53:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75593</guid> <description>OOps, here&#039;s the article atEzine:&lt;a href=&quot;http://ezinearticles.com/?All-Praise-the-Real-Estate-Gurus---Truth-Be-Told&amp;id=3105318&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-Truth Be Told&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOps, here&#8217;s the article atEzine:</p><p><a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?All-Praise-the-Real-Estate-Gurus---Truth-Be-Told&amp;id=3105318" rel="nofollow">All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-Truth Be Told</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shae Bynes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75579</link> <dc:creator>Shae Bynes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75579</guid> <description>Hey James, I&#039;d like to read that article - I think the link may be incorrect though (it took me to a realty news page).  Thanks for sharing!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey James, I&#8217;d like to read that article &#8211; I think the link may be incorrect though (it took me to a realty news page).  Thanks for sharing!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Dorkin</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75578</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:53:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75578</guid> <description>Well put, James!  I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re participating on the rest of BiggerPockets, but I&#039;d love if you shared some of your perspective on our forums some time too!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, James!  I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re participating on the rest of BiggerPockets, but I&#8217;d love if you shared some of your perspective on our forums some time too!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Mikel</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75577</link> <dc:creator>James Mikel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75577</guid> <description>Sorry about writing a half million words to make my point.  You just never know who will be reading this and for those who wish to learn I say: not all things which are free have no value. James A. Mikel FYI-here&#039;s a little article about real estate investing in Florida I thought your readers would enjoy.   All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-Truth Be Told &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/RealtyNews.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-TruthBe Told&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about writing a half million words to make my point.  You just never know who will be reading this and for those who wish to learn I say: not all things which are free have no value.<br /> James A. Mikel<br /> FYI-here&#8217;s a little article about real estate investing in Florida I thought your readers would enjoy.   All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-Truth Be Told<br /> <a href="http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/RealtyNews.html" rel="nofollow">All Praise The Real Estate Gurus-TruthBe Told</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shae Bynes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75575</link> <dc:creator>Shae Bynes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75575</guid> <description>@James, wow long comment :-)  Yep, doing the research is critical. I like this comment you made: &quot;  It is always better to check before writing a check.&quot; True indeed!  Have a great weekend!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James, wow long comment <img src='http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Yep, doing the research is critical. I like this comment you made: &#8221;  It is always better to check before writing a check.&#8221; True indeed!  Have a great weekend!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shae Bynes</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75574</link> <dc:creator>Shae Bynes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75574</guid> <description>@Jose, Thanks! I think that once people have established themselves in online communities you trust them...so once that investor puts out a product you KNOW they are the real deal.  Essentially you want to learn from someone you like, know, and trust...and when investors make themselves accessible and have a solid reputation, I think its a great idea to generate an additional income stream through selling information.@Steve, thanks! I agree with your comments. I&#039;m a big time online researcher and there&#039;s so much to gain from hearing from others.  At the same time, I feel that you have to also consider the fact that there are a LOT of loud complainers who actually shouldn&#039;t be complaining because they didn&#039;t take any action. It&#039;s easy to say something doesn&#039;t work if you haven&#039;t done anything.  LOL!  Thanks again for your comments!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jose, Thanks! I think that once people have established themselves in online communities you trust them&#8230;so once that investor puts out a product you KNOW they are the real deal.  Essentially you want to learn from someone you like, know, and trust&#8230;and when investors make themselves accessible and have a solid reputation, I think its a great idea to generate an additional income stream through selling information.</p><p>@Steve, thanks! I agree with your comments. I&#8217;m a big time online researcher and there&#8217;s so much to gain from hearing from others.  At the same time, I feel that you have to also consider the fact that there are a LOT of loud complainers who actually shouldn&#8217;t be complaining because they didn&#8217;t take any action. It&#8217;s easy to say something doesn&#8217;t work if you haven&#8217;t done anything.  LOL!  Thanks again for your comments!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Mikel</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75573</link> <dc:creator>James Mikel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75573</guid> <description>Excellent and true, I am a real estate investor who can and does frequently bash the gurus. Recently I was contacted by an individual who had spent $15,000 on a seminar in Palm Beach only to find that his education was lacking after the purchase of a property at tax deed auction in Broward County.  After the purchase he found that there were nearly $18,000 in code violations and liens, ooops.  With a property value of $30,000 (he stated) and having paid $15,000 at auction and another $4,000 for a quiet title action he was already in the negative before the quiet title action was completed.  My advice, do not let the attorney negotiate the lien for you, many times their hourly rate will negate whatever reduction the BOCC (Board Of County Commissioners) grants.  In negotiating the lien yourself you will learn the steps necessary to present this in the future  and you will recieve the full benefit of the reduction.  Typically the BOCC will reduce the amount of liens. The best idea is to not purchase properties whose liens exceed value.I have found a discouraging number of people claiming to have great experience and knoweldge who do not.  If someone is boasting they sold 7000 properties in Florida for 30% of value it takes about 2 minutes to check.  It is always better to check before writing a check, if you don&#039;t check the only one who will be putting profit in their pocket will be the guru who duped you.Lets Check Google &quot;Florida Division of Corporations&quot;, you can query statewide records for named persons who are agents , officers, partners, managing members, owners of a corporation.  If the persons name appears in the registry the records returned will show position in company and contact info.  Ohh Look there he is Jeff K, the boaster guru, from XYZ Realty Buyers in Marion County.Google, &quot;MyFlorida Official Records Search&quot; run a state wide search of the official records by name Jeff K and by business entity, XYZ Realty Buyers.  If the business location in the Division records reflect Marion County, for example,  you can restrict the MyFlorida query by county.  Oh Look Jeff K nor XYZ have purchased a property tax deed yet he is the expert and guru.  Once you have located a few counties in which they have purchased property write down the names of the counties, lets say Marion County again.Run a Google search for, Marion County FL Clerk of Courts.  Once the County  Clerk of Courts Homespage is found you can  locate a link for and query the county official records by the persons name and business entity.  In most counties you can also see the documents of conveyance.I received a call from someone in Mexico wanting to know my opinion on a seminar he was about to take on Florida foreclosure investing and auctions.   Oppps the individual he had been talking to was not an officer, agent, owner or partner in a Florida Corporation and the guru personally had purchased a total of 4 properties over the course of 6 years-now that&#039;s truly the markings of a guru.  His claim was that he had been personally investing in Florida foreclosure auctions for 15 years and through his Florida Corporation for 5 years.  FYI-He needs a better story such as  I have invested in Florida reale estate for centuries but all of my transactions are through a trust and my name is not on the trust and the funds I draw from the trust go into my sister-in-laws name and I own a business but I am not a owner, agent, officer,  member and I hold no stock in the company, it&#039;s in my step sons name.By The Way, I&#039;m no guru, I&#039;m not flashy and I&#039;m not a marketer.   When real estate investing is new to you, it is hard to obtain accurate info.  If you have the desire to learn and invest in Florida real estate I have approximately 130 free pages and of the  millions of US sites on the internet this is the only one where you will actually learn for free.  Here&#039;s a short tutorial on using county official records to be a pre foreclosure finder. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/PreForeclosureFinder.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent and true, I am a real estate investor who can and does frequently bash the gurus. Recently I was contacted by an individual who had spent $15,000 on a seminar in Palm Beach only to find that his education was lacking after the purchase of a property at tax deed auction in Broward County.  After the purchase he found that there were nearly $18,000 in code violations and liens, ooops.  With a property value of $30,000 (he stated) and having paid $15,000 at auction and another $4,000 for a quiet title action he was already in the negative before the quiet title action was completed.  My advice, do not let the attorney negotiate the lien for you, many times their hourly rate will negate whatever reduction the BOCC (Board Of County Commissioners) grants.  In negotiating the lien yourself you will learn the steps necessary to present this in the future  and you will recieve the full benefit of the reduction.  Typically the BOCC will reduce the amount of liens.<br /> The best idea is to not purchase properties whose liens exceed value.</p><p>I have found a discouraging number of people claiming to have great experience and knoweldge who do not.  If someone is boasting they sold 7000 properties in Florida for 30% of value it takes about 2 minutes to check.  It is always better to check before writing a check, if you don&#8217;t check the only one who will be putting profit in their pocket will be the guru who duped you.</p><p>Lets Check<br /> Google &#8220;Florida Division of Corporations&#8221;, you can query statewide records for named persons who are agents , officers, partners, managing members, owners of a corporation.  If the persons name appears in the registry the records returned will show position in company and contact info.  Ohh Look there he is Jeff K, the boaster guru, from XYZ Realty Buyers in Marion County.</p><p>Google, &#8220;MyFlorida Official Records Search&#8221; run a state wide search of the official records by name Jeff K and by business entity, XYZ Realty Buyers.  If the business location in the Division records reflect Marion County, for example,  you can restrict the MyFlorida query by county.  Oh Look Jeff K nor XYZ have purchased a property tax deed yet he is the expert and guru.  Once you have located a few counties in which they have purchased property write down the names of the counties, lets say Marion County again.</p><p>Run a Google search for, Marion County FL Clerk of Courts.  Once the County  Clerk of Courts Homespage is found you can  locate a link for and query the county official records by the persons name and business entity.  In most counties you can also see the documents of conveyance.</p><p>I received a call from someone in Mexico wanting to know my opinion on a seminar he was about to take on Florida foreclosure investing and auctions.   Oppps the individual he had been talking to was not an officer, agent, owner or partner in a Florida Corporation and the guru personally had purchased a total of 4 properties over the course of 6 years-now that&#8217;s truly the markings of a guru.  His claim was that he had been personally investing in Florida foreclosure auctions for 15 years and through his Florida Corporation for 5 years.  FYI-He needs a better story such as  I have invested in Florida reale estate for centuries but all of my transactions are through a trust and my name is not on the trust and the funds I draw from the trust go into my sister-in-laws name and I own a business but I am not a owner, agent, officer,  member and I hold no stock in the company, it&#8217;s in my step sons name.</p><p>By The Way, I&#8217;m no guru, I&#8217;m not flashy and I&#8217;m not a marketer.   When real estate investing is new to you, it is hard to obtain accurate info.  If you have the desire to learn and invest in Florida real estate I have approximately 130 free pages and of the  millions of US sites on the internet this is the only one where you will actually learn for free.  Here&#8217;s a short tutorial on using county official records to be a pre foreclosure finder.<br /> <a href="http://www.floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com/PreForeclosureFinder.html" rel="nofollow">floridataxsale-foreclosure-info.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/11/19/wait-before-you-buy-real-estate-ebook-course-2/#comment-75563</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:51:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/?p=8735#comment-75563</guid> <description>Good post Shae!  I think it is important to also do some online research on the person before you buy.  Simply Google their name and you will quickly see what others are saying.  A lot of the entry level courses ($1,000 - $4,000) are simply feeders into the expensive courses ($10,000 - $30,000). .-= Steve&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://buildbankroll.com/2009/11/flip-that-mansion-latest-project/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flip that Mansion – Latest Project&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Shae!  I think it is important to also do some online research on the person before you buy.  Simply Google their name and you will quickly see what others are saying.  A lot of the entry level courses ($1,000 &#8211; $4,000) are simply feeders into the expensive courses ($10,000 &#8211; $30,000).<br /> .-= Steve&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://buildbankroll.com/2009/11/flip-that-mansion-latest-project/" rel="nofollow">Flip that Mansion – Latest Project</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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