I really can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked the question: Is this a good note deal? So, first, let’s consider why people ask this question. I think it’s because they want to hear your response or opinion of what a good note deal actually is. Although I’m honored that those who ask me value my opinion, I don’t want to do them a disservice by giving them a simple “yes” or “no” answer. Besides, what’s a good note deal for me isn’t necessarily a good note deal for someone else. When a real estate investor, who’s getting started in notes, asks me about a note deal, I try to explain my take on it by relating it to a real estate deal.
So, What Makes a Good Real Estate Deal?
At first, sometimes it is hard to tell, or to know, if you have a good deal until you get some experience. Let’s look at real estate, for example, there are several areas of a deal where you can make money:
- The buy – When I first started in Real Estate, I paid close to retail like most people, who are just starting out. Today, I would usually only buy properties from motivated, or distressed, sellers. Another way to find a good deal on the buy, is finding a discrepancy in fair market value or a property in lesser conditions.
- Rehabbing the property – Although heavy rehabs tend to be more profitable, sometimes you can find properties that don’t need as much done and that can be turned around quickly. If you have experience rehabbing, you may also have more knowledge of what everything costs. Another skill set that can give you an advantage, besides creativity and the ability to rehab a property, involves managing contractors.
- Management –Were your estimates accurate? Did you come in under budget? Did you finish the rehab in a timely manner? If you’re using private money, the longer the deal takes, the more it will cost you.
- Shopping for financing – The time and effort it takes to find financing, as well as the type of financing you find, can affect the profitability of your deal. For example, private money is usually cheaper than hard money. Also, people with good credit get better terms.
- Foresight – Your level of foresight can go a long way. For example, there was a property I paid retail for ($65,000), but I saw potential to build a commercial garage on an adjacent lot. Now, the property is worth over $200,000.
- Marketing – If you’re skilled at marketing, you will get the property rented or sold quicker than someone, who’s not skilled at marketing.
Any of these things can turn an okay deal into a really good deal.
I remember when my cousin and I were investing in similar types of properties; he always had to get a great deal on the buy side because he can’t change a light bulb. I, on the other hand, I had a few advantages. For one, I was a realtor and a property manager. On top of that, I owned a contracting company at the time. This was a huge overall advantage, because if the rehab was taking too long, my crew and I could jump in and finish the renovations. It was also easier for me to manage the deal because I had a more flexible job. So, if you’re in the investing business, it does make it easier to have yourself, your spouse, or someone close to you have a flexible schedule.
And, What Makes a Good Note Deal?
Well, it’s the same way with notes, especially when their delinquent, because the money is made in the rehab. But first of all, what’s a satisfactory return, particularly when you’re just starting out and you don’t have experience yet rehabbing the note? When I was new, I didn’t really focus on profit as much as learning the space.
Similar to a real estate, the following areas can affect the outcome of the note deal:
- The buy – You can make money on the buy side just like with real estate, but all of the other components can certainly impact the deal as well. The quality of your past data can make you more efficient on the buy side, especially when you know the statistics for certain types of asset classes. One of the reasons note buyers may get a great deal is if they have knowledge of the true value of the underlying asset (finding a property with a bad BPO).
- Rehabbing the note – How good are you at negotiating and rehabbing bad paper, borrower management, creating workout plans, etc.? Or, are you outsourcing these tasks to a servicer?
- Note Management –The more efficiently you manage the administrative part of owning a note, the risk, the borrower, and your vendors, the more profitable the outcome.
- Shopping for Financing – Do you have an affordable source of capital? Because it’s a finance driven business, you have to have affordable and available sources of capital to move on a good deal when you find it. Depending on your business model, you may also need to refinance or recapitalize quickly.
- Foresight – Do you know your best exit strategy? Based on the type of asset or the borrower’s intent, choosing the right exit strategy can make or break the deal.
- Marketing –If you’re skilled at marketing, you may be able to build a network of note buyers or note investors to sell your notes to after you get them re-performing.
All of these things can give you an edge or advantage to becoming more profitable.
What to do if You’re New…
It’s really the same as any new endeavor; it’s best to get educated and try to find someone to partner with you, or mentor you, until you get more experience. And lastly, try to build relationships with others, who are already doing the business. If you do these three things, your odds of success and getting some great deals will be much higher, once you’re ready to pull the trigger.
So, did you expect me to show you a one-off, great note deal that you should buy?
When dealing with nonperforming notes, it’s much more statistical than that, and it could depend on many variables. The reason I can’t tell on an individual note is because I’m just not that smart. This is largely due to not knowing the borrower’s intent, market fluctuations, and unknown events that could happen in the future. This happens in real estate as well. For example I have a duplex I’ve owned for 10 years that I bought at a great price, did a nice renovation on it, got a nice appraisal at the time I refinanced, and now I just discovered, years later, that I have a serious termite infestation.
But, even though I can’t predict everything, including the future, the outcome will depend more on how I react and handle the problem, than on the actual problem itself. And, I wouldn’t have changed a thing in my real estate or note investing career. So, go ahead and get started!
If you’re an active real estate or note investor, are there any other areas, or aspects, of your deals that have impacted the outcome or the profit level? I’m always curious to hear some stories from Bigger Pockets folks!