{"id":101894,"date":"2019-08-02T09:00:24","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T15:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/renewsblog\/?p=101894"},"modified":"2021-03-16T14:50:06","modified_gmt":"2021-03-16T20:50:06","slug":"are-hoarder-houses-a-good-first-investment-or-a-potential-nightmare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/are-hoarder-houses-a-good-first-investment-or-a-potential-nightmare","title":{"rendered":"Are Hoarder Houses a Good First Investment or a Potential Nightmare?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In most of the U.S., real estate markets have been hot and competitive for years now. Many investors \u2013 even new investors \u2013 have started looking at potential properties they may not have considered five years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Exhibit A: hoarder homes. We\u2019ve all seen videos, whether on YouTube, Facebook, or TV shows like <em>Hoarders<\/em>, wandering through homes packed to truly frightening levels. As in, \u201cIf someone lit a cigarette in here, the whole tinderbox might go up in an inferno blaze.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As unlikely as that is, there are still plenty of reasons to approach hoarder homes with caution as a new investor. Here are five risks posed by hoarder homes for new real estate investors \u2014 and more importantly, how investors can circumvent them.<\/p>\n<h3>Risk 1: Hidden Property Problems<\/h3>\n<p>When a room is stacked from floor to ceiling with junk, it\u2019s hard to tell what kind of condition the floors are in. Or the walls. Or the wiring, plumbing, structure, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The same problem will face your home inspector when they go in to evaluate the property. How can you, or your contractor, or your home inspector, or even the lender\u2019s appraiser be sure of what\u2019s going on beneath and behind all that junk?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitigation<\/strong>: If a property looks promising, but you need to verify exactly what needs replacing and what doesn\u2019t, you may need to invest some time and\/or money in clearing away a minimal amount of junk.<\/p>\n<p>That could mean clearing it away from the walls and piling it in the middle of the room, if possible. It could mean removing some junk from the property.<\/p>\n<p>One option is putting a contract on the property with a good contingency clause for evaluating the property\u2019s condition. You&#8217;ll also need to get the seller&#8217;s permission, in writing in the contract, to move their junk away from the walls.<\/p>\n<p>If after you invest a few hundred dollars in clearing away some junk to get a closer look you decide the property has more problems than you first suspected, cancel the contract and get your deposit back.<\/p>\n<p>Another option? Simply assume the worst. The only problem is that the &#8220;worst&#8221; may be worse than you think.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-114019\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/pests-roaches.jpg\" alt=\"Pest control contractor exterminating roaches in bathroom\" width=\"702\" height=\"336\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/pests-roaches.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/pests-roaches-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Risk 2: Infestations<\/h3>\n<p>Hoarder houses are notorious breeding grounds for cockroaches, rats, and other pests.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the bad news. The good news is that the most dangerous and expensive pest \u2013 termites \u2013 are not as likely to be drawn by the trash and junk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitigation<\/strong>: First, be sure to include a line item in your renovation budget for pest control services. Price it out beforehand and assume you\u2019ll need to treat the property at least once. If the house has no infestations, great, you&#8217;re now under-budget.<\/p>\n<p>Even more importantly, make sure your home inspector can access the support beams and some framing, to thoroughly check for termites. Treating for ants and cockroaches is affordable, but termites can cause expensive damage to repair.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"\/renewsblog\/how-to-invest-in-hoarder-houses\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">5 Tips to Help Investors Handle Hoarder House Situations<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Risk 3: Mold<\/h3>\n<p>Speaking of expensive damage to repair, mold in the drywall and framing can be a nightmare.<\/p>\n<p>And hoarder houses pose a double threat: first, with all the miscellaneous junk in the house, all in close quarters, and potentially covering the walls, the risk of mold can be higher. Second, the risk of you and your home inspector missing it is also higher, since you can\u2019t easily see every surface.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitigation<\/strong>: Once again, do everything you can to clear away junk from the walls, and clear up access panels. You won\u2019t be able to see every square inch of flooring before settling but do everything you can to make sure you can check behind the walls and cabinets.<\/p>\n<p>Especially look beneath and behind plumbing lines and fixtures like sinks.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-114020\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/hoarder-house.jpg\" alt=\"hoarder property filled with junk\" width=\"702\" height=\"336\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/hoarder-house.jpg 702w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/hoarder-house-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Risk 4: High Cost of Junk Removal<\/h3>\n<p>Removing all that junk could get expensive.<\/p>\n<p>While this is the most obvious cost in buying a hoarder home, investors can still be burned if costs run far higher than expected.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitigation<\/strong>: Get multiple quotes on junk removal. In all likelihood, you\u2019ll want to use a junk removal service, as they tend to charge less by the hour than your general contractor.<\/p>\n<p>Double check references and ask for details like how large of a dumpster they plan to use, how many times they anticipate emptying it, how long they expect the process to take. Ask if they\u2019ve ever gone over budget.<\/p>\n<p>Get very clear on your junk removal costs before putting the property under contract!<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Related:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blogs\/8539\/50554-must-read-before-buying-a-hoarder-home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Must Read Before Buying a Hoarder Home<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Risk 5: Sellers\u2019 Second Thoughts &amp; Settlement Delays<\/h3>\n<p>As a real estate investor considering a hoarder home, you have to remember you\u2019re working with a seller who has mental health problems. They kept all the junk in the property because they literally can\u2019t bear to part with any of it.<\/p>\n<p>That means they are selling the property \u2013 and everything in it \u2013 with great reluctance. They don\u2019t like what\u2019s happening, and they may well try to cancel or delay the sale if given half a chance.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mitigation<\/strong>: First, know from the start that a cancelled contract is a risk. Know going in that you\u2019ll be working with a difficult seller.<\/p>\n<p>Speak with your realtor about your concerns, and brainstorm tactics with them to prevent delays and cancellations. Perhaps you can build in a delayed settlement penalty, where the purchase price drops by $5,000 if the seller delays settlement?<\/p>\n<p>Maybe you can even build in a deposit from the seller, that\u2019s forfeited if they cancel the contract. Get creative and do what you can to protect yourself.<\/p>\n<p>After all, you\u2019re investing some time and money in this property, to move around junk so you can view walls, to have a home inspection done, etc. Get creative on how you can protect yourself and your contract.<\/p>\n<h3>Hoarder Homes Can Be Good Investments, But\u2026<\/h3>\n<p>Many investors take one look at a hoarder home and their stomach turns. That can spell opportunity for investors willing to tackle the headaches.<\/p>\n<p>But headaches aren\u2019t the only drawback of hoarder homes. They can come with a higher risk of hidden property problems, as outlined above.<\/p>\n<p>Do everything you possibly can to get a thorough look at every wall, behind every access panel. As an investor, your biggest risk is nasty surprises after settling.<\/p>\n<p>Make sure you have a clear understanding of every cost involved in cleaning and renovating the property, and hoarder homes can be a great opportunity for real estate investors.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/real-estate-investment-calculator?utm_source=renewsblog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-91220\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"85\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/blog_ads-02-300x36.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Have you ever bought a hoarder home? <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>What happened? Any tips to share? Don&#8217;t be shy! Share below!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ever considered buying a hoarder home as a real estate investor? 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