{"id":181224,"date":"2025-02-24T13:52:26","date_gmt":"2025-02-24T20:52:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/?p=181224"},"modified":"2025-02-24T13:53:29","modified_gmt":"2025-02-24T20:53:29","slug":"the-myth-of-cash-flow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/the-myth-of-cash-flow","title":{"rendered":"The Myth of Cash Flow"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">One dead giveaway that a real estate influencer is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">really<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> more of <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/pushing-back-against-real-estate-investing-gurus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">a fake guru<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is an overemphasis on <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/rental-property-cash-flow-analysis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">cash flow<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. Sure, it\u2019s not as big a giveaway as having multiple clips of said \u201cinfluencer\u201d partying on the beach in what ostensibly is an educational video on real estate investment. But overemphasizing how <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">great<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> cash flow is still highly dubious.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That, of course, doesn\u2019t mean that cash flow is useless. It is, in fact, <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">very important<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, but not for the reasons most gurus would have you believe; namely, after a short while in real estate, you can live a luxurious lifestyle off cash flow alone.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Cash flow is mostly <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">just<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> a way to keep you afloat, but we will get to that shortly.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> For now, let\u2019s talk about the current real estate economy.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In today\u2019s market, where prices are still going up, and interest rates are about double what they were five years ago, achieving positive cash flow on an investment house with a loan is extraordinarily difficult. <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/brrrr-method\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The BRRRR method<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u2014where you attempt to be all-in on a property for 75% of its value and then refinance <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">out<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> your entire investment with a bank\u2014is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">all but<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> a non-starter.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Indeed, the BiggerPockets forums <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">are littered<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> with discussions about this:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\/853\/topics\/1135296-the-brrrr-method-is-dead\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The BRRRR method is dead<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\/853\/topics\/1162909-is-brrr-dead-in-2024\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Is BRRR dead in 2024???<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\/50\/topics\/430982-here-is-why-the-brrr-method-is-not-working-for-me\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">HERE IS WHY THE BRRR METHOD IS NOT WORKING FOR ME<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\/921\/topics\/1227360-why-brrrr-is-not-an-effective-strategy-today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Why BRRRR is not an effective strategy today\u2026<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\/853\/topics\/1087855-is-the-brrrr-strategy-still-feasible\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Is the BRRRR strategy still feasible?<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And on and on it goes. Even David Greene, <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the guy<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> who wrote a book called <\/span><em><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/store.biggerpockets.com\/products\/buy-rehab-rent-refinance-repeat?_gl=1*1smzdvj*_gcl_au*MjgzNzYzNzcxLjE3Mzg5NDAxNDg.*_ga*Mjc4MDc2MTU4LjE3MTUxODA5NzM.*_ga_243XVN497V*MTczOTI0OTgzNy4zMjkuMS4xNzM5MjUwODg4LjU5LjAuMA..\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">BRRRR<\/span><\/a><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, now <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/real-estate-904\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">points out that<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> \u201cYou CAN\u2019T rely on cash flow anymore.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">By the Numbers<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Is that true? Is it <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">really<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> so bad? Well, let\u2019s look at the numbers.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">We\u2019ll run the numbers by using some actual market statistics. In Jackson County, Missouri (<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/markets?market=Kansas%20City%2C%20MO-KS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Kansas City<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">), where I live, the median home sale in January 2025 was <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/kcrar.stats.showingtime.com\/docs\/lmu\/x\/JacksonMO?src=map\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$250,000<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I could use the average sales price of $306,586 to <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">make my case even <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">stronger<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, but I\u2019ll go with the lower median value since I think it is more representative of your typical sale.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">On the other hand, according to Zillow, the average rent for a house in Kansas City at the same time was <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.zillow.com\/rental-manager\/market-trends\/kansas-city-mo\/?propertyTypes=house\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$1,500\/month<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">So, let\u2019s <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">take a<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> look at how purchasing the median house in Kansas City and trying to rent it will work for you. We\u2019ll go with a 75% LTV (loan-to-value) loan at the 30-year fixed rate. As of this date, according to <\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Mortgage News Daily,<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> that would run <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mortgagenewsdaily.com\/mortgage-rates\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">7.01%<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. (Again, this is generous, as that\u2019s what homeowners are getting, and typically, investors get worse rates and, at least in the Midwest, very rarely an amortization of 30 years.)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">At 75% LTV, <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the loan on<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> a $250,000 house would be $187,500.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> So, let\u2019s do the math for how this rental will work out:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Monthly rent:<\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$1,500<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Mortgage: $1,248.70<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Proceeds: $252.30<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Not a good start.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And remember, this is assuming 100% occupancy, and even if it didn\u2019t, we still have to pay all sorts of other expenses, most notably <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/property-tax-faq\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">property taxes<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> (which, in Jackson County, <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.kansascity.com\/opinion\/readers-opinion\/guest-commentary\/article280739385.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">indefensibly skyrocketed in 2023<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">).&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Let&#8217;s take a look if we add in some basic assumptions on vacancy and expenses:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Income:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Monthly rent:<\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$1,500<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Vacancy (10%): <\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">($150)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Other income (i.e., late fees, app fees, etc.): $30<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Gross income: $1,380<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Operating expenses:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Property taxes (monthly): ($200)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Insurance: ($60) <\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Utilities (when vacant): ($25)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Management fee (10% gross):<\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">($138)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Maintenance\/turnover: ($100)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Contract services: ($25)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Replacement reserve:<\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">($200)<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Operating expenses: ($748)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Net income: $632 <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Debt service: ($1,248.70)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Cash flow: ($616.70)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In other words, it\u2019s not even close. Yes, you would cash flow without a loan, but with interest rates where they are, a loan makes it exceedingly difficult.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Now you could do as the BRRRR method suggests and get the deal at a 25% discount (i.e., buy it for $187,500), which would help. But that would bring the loan down to $140,625 and the payment to $936.53\/month. You would still be bleeding $304.53 per month. And remember, <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2015-05-07-bp-podcast-121-the-ideal-real-estate-investing-with-andrew-and-phillip-syrios\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the BRRRR method<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is to be all into a property for 75% of <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the property\u2019s<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> value and then refinance it at 75% of its <\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">appraised value<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In other words, you would be all-in for $187,500 and then finance it for $187,500. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">BRRRRing<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> this deal by the book would mean you would still be back to losing $616.70 per month.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Now,<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> of course, the typical house is not the typical investment house.<\/span> <a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Millionaire-Real-Estate-Investor\/dp\/0071446370\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">As<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> Gary Keller noted<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the best place to invest is in the lower middle part of the market.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> So the numbers on such a property will look better there.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">being said<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, Kansas City is an investor-friendly market, where the average rent-to-cost ratio is 0.6 ($1,500 rent divided by $250,000 price). Compare that to <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/markets?market=New%20York-Newark-Jersey%20City%2C%20NY-NJ-PA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">New York<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u2019s ratio of 0.45 (average rent of <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.apartments.com\/rent-market-trends\/new-york-ny\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$3,887\/month<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> and home price of <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/rocket.com\/homes\/market-reports\/ny\/new-york\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$862,270<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">), and the thought of having positive cash flow on a BRRRR becomes faint.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> Is (Sorta) How It Has Always Been<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Or, more accurately, this is an extreme version of how it\u2019s typically been.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I remember talking with a very successful apartment investor at a BiggerPockets conference a few years back who acknowledged that when they included recurring capex (or replacement reserve, i.e., replacing roofs, repaving parking lots, etc.)<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, they were <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">actually<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> losing money<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> It was refinances, sales, acquisition fees, and the rest that made them profitable. (Although I should note, their operation\u2019s overhead was a significant additional reason that cash flow <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">by itself<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> wasn\u2019t enough.)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It\u2019s my experience that investors don&#8217;t fully account for recurring capital expenses. Just think how many months of $100\/month cash flow you would need to overcome one $7,500 roof. Here, for example, is one list <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/retipster.com\/terms\/capex\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">R.E. Tipster<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> came up with:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"930\" height=\"620\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image1-2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-181227\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image1-2.jpeg 930w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image1-2-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/image1-2-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 930px) 100vw, 930px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.retipster.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">www.RETipster.com<\/span><\/em><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And that doesn\u2019t include anything with the foundation, driveway, insulation, or sewer line.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Over 35-plus years, <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/real-estate-investors-learn-dad-stewardship-properties\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">my father built a real estate investment company<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> of over 1,000 units in four states. His student housing operation in Oregon <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">definitely<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> has positive cash flow, but every other branch is tight. And his Oregon operation took several decades to achieve and is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">in large part<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> because of how good <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/2015-07-29-introduction-student-housing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the niche of student housing<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is at producing cash flow.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Indeed, my dad owns houses worth close to $1 million <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">that<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> he bought for around $50,000 in the mid-\u201990s.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> It&#8217;s <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/what-is-appreciation-in-real-estate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">appreciation<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> that produced that wealth, not cash flow.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In fact,<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> every successful investor I have ever met has told me the same thing: Cash flow is overrated. Or, at least, it\u2019s overrated when it comes to becoming wealthy.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> Cash flow is essential to staying solvent and not going bankrupt. So it\u2019s <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">quite<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> important. But to become wealthy with cash flow is just unrealistic.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The median personal income in the United States as of 2023 is <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/fred.stlouisfed.org\/series\/MEPAINUSA646N\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">$42,220<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">You would need 35 rentals making $100\/month <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">just<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> to make that and be \u201caverage.\u201d<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> Yet only<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pewresearch.org\/short-reads\/2021\/08\/02\/as-national-eviction-ban-expires-a-look-at-who-rents-and-who-owns-in-the-u-s\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> 6.7% of Americans own even a single rental property<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. And <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/getflex.com\/blog\/landlord-statistics\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the average landlord owns just three<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, i.e., less than 10% of what\u2019s needed to get to the median American income at $100\/unit per month.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And yes, you would make a lot more without debt, but that removes one of <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">real<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> estate\u2019s <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">biggest<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> advantages. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">(<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">And,<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> at least in the United States, <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/real-estate-vs-stocks-performance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the stock market has had higher returns<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> than real estate historically if debt <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">isn\u2019t utilized<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.)<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Real estate is a get-rich-slow investment. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Cash flow keeps you solvent, but <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">it\u2019s<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> long-term appreciation (compounded with wise use of debt) and principal paydown <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">that<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> make you wealthy.<\/span> <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">what my experience is<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, as <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">well as<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> every other successful buy-and-hold investor I have ever talked to.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Becoming rich with cash flow has always been a myth. It\u2019s just more of a myth now than it used to be.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">So Is All Hope Lost?<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">As noted, BRRRRing right now is extremely difficult. Not impossible, but very difficult. <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In general,<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> real estate investment is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">more difficult<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> than it was five years ago.<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> But no, not all hope is lost.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/house-hacking\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">House hacking<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is still a good way to get your foot in the door, especially with a duplex or fourplex, where your tenants will help pay your mortgage.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Buying without <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">debt or with less<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> debt can still allow properties to cash flow and is still an option. Furthermore, it\u2019s much easier to get <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">larger<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> multifamily properties to cash flow than houses or the like, so <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/ultimate-guide-to-real-estate-syndication\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">syndications<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> are still <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">a possibility<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, as are some commercial properties such as industrial. (I would <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/its-official-commercial-real-estate-is-collapsing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">be wary about <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">office<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> right now.)<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Properties <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bankrate.com\/real-estate\/case-shiller\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">are still appreciating<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, and the market is still <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">fairly<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> active. So <\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/how-to-flip-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">flipping<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> is <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">definitely<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> still viable.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">So while BRRRR is dead, or more accurately, hibernating, there are still opportunities in real estate. Perhaps one small silver lining is that the challenges this market has made for BRRRR investing highlight a general truth: Cash flowing to any substantive degree, at least with debt, is very difficult and takes a long time. Furthermore, that\u2019s not how real estate investors get wealthy. 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